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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:19 PM
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Childless man released from child support debt (CNN)
ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- A Georgia man who spent a year in jail for nonpayment of child support -- despite the fact he has no children -- has been cleared of the debt, his attorney said Tuesday.

Frank Hatley, 50, spent 13 months in jail for being a deadbeat dad before his release last month. A judge ordered him jailed in June 2008 for failing to support his "son" -- a child who DNA tests proved was not fathered by Hatley.

Last week, Cook County Superior Court Judge Dane Perkins signed an order stating, "defendant is no longer responsible for paying any amount of child support." The order permits the state's Office of Child Support Services to close its file on Hatley.

"We're satisfied with the result for Mr. Hatley, but still troubled by the state's monumental lapse of judgment in this case," attorney Sarah Geraghty with the Atlanta-based Southern Center for Human Rights told CNN in a written statement. Hatley did not immediately return a call from CNN Tuesday.

His story dates back to 1986, when Hatley had a relationship with Essie Lee Morrison, who gave birth to a son. According to court documents, Morrison told Hatley the child was his, but the two ended their relationship shortly after the child was born. The couple never married and never lived together, the documents said.
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more: http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/11/georgia.child.support/index.html




Another example of why it's called "just us" ...
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:22 PM
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1. Does he get reimbursed for monies paid for 13 years? n/t
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:26 PM
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4. yes...he should get all of his money back and then some
since he spent a year in jail for a debt that was not his. i am sure his lawyer is all over this.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:29 PM
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6. I wonder if he had a relationship with the boy?
Did he take him to his house for the weekend? Bring him over to meet his "grand-parents" and the rest of the extended family? Help with homework? Boy Scout campouts? Christmas morning presents? Birthday parties?

And then one day it all just ended? Was this boy left confused and feeling rejected?

I do think the mother is the main cultprit here, and the state is just grubbing for money (but then what state can afford NOT to grub for money?) But this man did establish himself as the father in this child's mind. For 13 years this child looked to this man for fatherly companionship. It is sad that it comes to an end so abruptly, and that it all comes down to money.
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:43 PM
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11. No, the 'culprit' was the mother -
she was the one who named this guy as the dad. States should go after deadbeat dads - that's not grubbing for money, that's expecting parents to behave responsibly. That said, he should get some money back from the state, but I suspect his only option is to bring a civil suit against the mom.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:47 PM
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12. I saw a guy years ago on Montel Williams...
Same deal. He had a relationship with his "son", and the paternity test said the boy wasn't his. The man was devastated when the mother said he couldn't see him anymore. :cry:
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:22 PM
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2. w00t!
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:24 PM
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3. Good to hear that he's been cleared.
Though I notice the Office of Child Services has no intention of refunding any money to Hatley.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:33 PM
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10. what do you mean they have no intention of refunding money??? somebody should
be refunding this guy money.... this is bs.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:26 PM
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5. Women who sleep around and then they have no idea who fathered their child(ren) are sluts
That woman should pay the Hatley every cent he gave to her.

Wrap it up men, women using freaking birth control or just get a DNA test.


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:30 PM
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7. I have to agree with you
I'm betting she knew he was not the father. Woman usually know who they have sex with and when.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 11:45 PM
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20. Absolutely, she had sex with two men thats not the problem
having sex with two men then becoming pregnant soon after becomes the problem for her, once she finds out that she is pregnant and doesn't know who the father might be, then she needs to (A) tell her boyfriend that she is living with or (B) keep it a secret till the baby is born along with praying to her god that it is the child of the guy she is living with.


If she picks (B), once the baby is born and she knows (and she should) that the father is not her live in boyfriends child, then she not only made a mistake with her affair she then becomes a thief.

Its no different than stealing money out of his pocket every day, if she allows him to unknowingly supporting another mans baby.

My two cents...





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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:33 PM
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9. Which begs the question
will Child Services now go after the real father for the dollars?
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:53 PM
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17. And what are men who sleep around & have unprotected sex?
or are only women sluts & tramps for doing that?


dg
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:32 PM
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8. Moral of the story, if you get sued for child support
don't ignore the summons.

dg
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:23 PM
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13. No, the moral of the story is a DNA test & not ignore the summons
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:52 PM
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16. Or, get snipped or keep it in your pants nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:24 PM
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14. recommended
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:36 PM
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15. There is enough fraud and deceit in the family court system that the legislature should require DNA
testing before any assessment for support is made against against anyone.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:00 PM
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18. I feel so badly
for this guy. Even after he found out the kid was not his, he continued to make payments to the state to the best of his ability. You don't see that everyday. The guy couldn't catch a break. I hope somebody gives this guy a helping hand. I hope he gets every possible penny back.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:24 PM
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21. Well, it's GA, so as long as *somebody* went to jail, they're happy. nt
Oh, and if it's a black guy? Bonus!
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 11:12 PM
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19. How much did it cost to incarcerate him for a year?
and how much money did he loose in potential income? Locking someone up so that they can't make a living seems like defeating the purpose of getting a deadbeat dad to pay money to children.

I realize in this case he wasn't actually a deadbeat dad, but still, look how much money he didn't make those 13 months, and how much money that could have went to social services went instead to incarceration.

Stupid.
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