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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:31 AM
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Okay, my books for this semester cost 700 dollars...
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 05:33 AM by armyowalgreens
This is getting ridiculous. I pay 50-200 dollars for a book and then I sell it back for 5-10% the original cost.

I spent about 1200 dollars on books last year and got back 80.


How in the world could anyone think that these prices are affordable?



On Edit: Forgot to mention that the 700 dollars is for USED books. It's closer to 800 for brand new books.
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joecool65 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:32 AM
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1. Ever buy a new car?
Same principle.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:33 AM
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2. That's 700 dollars for used books.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:26 AM
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20. Yea, but U use a car ALL the time

not just for 4 months.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:46 AM
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25. Well.... that's not a very good comparison. Cars wear out; knowledge should last a lifetime.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:35 AM
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3. I always go to half.com and look for books there first. Saved a ton of money that way.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:36 AM
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4. I tried that this year. I would only save about 30 bucks.
Most of the books I need are not easily available for some reason. I only found 3 or 4 online.
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:14 AM
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15. OF COURSE NOT
damn caps lock.
This is the ever=present scam of higher education.
Your best best is to try to buy books from other students from last semester's course.
That aside it's just a scam IMHO.
And of course there are very few E-books of college material out there. possibly because they're a bitch to scan, considering that the professors are C O N S T A N T L Y changing books or 'updating' or some bullshit like that.

Generally I would try to talk to hte professor before class and ask him/her what books i ACTUALLY have to have, and would the previous revision (usually DIRT cheap) suffice.

This worked about half the time, and I could save myself a couple hundred a year (yes even in 94 it was that fucking expensive) from NOT buying books.

I personally love old text books. There are often interesting things written in them. in fact that's how I decide which (if there's a selection) used book i buy hee hee :) (talk about the half-blood prince)
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:39 AM
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5. Ouch. My son's books this semester were only $200+--but that's
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 05:57 AM by mnhtnbb
half what they were spring semester.

He's a German major. Are you buying science texts?

On edit: One of his German classes had no required texts at the student store. I suspect
they'll be downloading info from the internet. I guess I better put the savings into a separate
account to help fund his study abroad semester next year!
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:41 AM
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6. I'm buying books for 2 majors, a science class and a french lab.
It's 18 credit hours worth of books.

But even when I was a single major last year, my books still ran over 500 dollars.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:49 AM
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8. Have you tried these sites?
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:51 AM
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10. I've tried two of those. I'll have to try the other tomorrow...
Thanks for the help :pals:
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:48 AM
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7. I would try to contact folks in the classes this semester
that you plan on taking next semester and see if you can work out some deals directly with them. Giving them 50% of the price would be a win-win for both of you. I would guess that you have an idea of what you will be taking next semester so check out where those classes might be meeting or whatever you need to do to contact some of the students, but do so now. Can't fix what has happened, but you can take steps to improve the situation for yourself and perhaps someone else.


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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:50 AM
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9. hmmm that's a really good idea.
I've never thought about working out a deal before hand. Usually I'm searching for sellers after the semester is over.

Thanks.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:20 AM
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18. Yeah, we are all like that and all creatures of habit
but with a little planning you might come out a bit better. It might not work out 100%, but even if you only save on one book or class, you are ahead of the game by that much.

And my charge to you for what might be a really good idea, is to pass it on to some of your friends and them to their friends so that maybe you can help one another.


Good Luck, study hard, get a high paying job (because I need you to help pay for my Social Security) !


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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:51 AM
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11. Great idea. Any computer nerds wanted to set up a system
for people to contact each other directly for this purpose and cut out the middleman--well, might
be another multi-million dollar idea.

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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:47 AM
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31. Funnily enough, I have a friend who did just that. He only did it on a small scale and
for one university, but he did alright for himself and helped pay for his own college education.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:39 AM
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28. You just have to make sure they don't change the edition on you.
Then you're screwed.
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:53 AM
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12. College books have been a scam for a long time.

the price goes up, but nothing else changes.

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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:14 AM
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14. They are poor quality bindings too
My daughter used to go to the library and use the copies there for some of her classes.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:13 AM
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13. there is a reason the bookstore won't give you the iSBN numbers for the books.
I remember my sister telling me that they wouldn't let her see them. they don't want you to be able to go online and get them or anything. It's such a racket!! They will list things as required on the list when they aren't, but you aren't going to know that because you get your books before school starts. They LOVE to pull that. My sister said the teacher told them it wasn't required AFTER she had bought the book.... me thinks the bookstore has a reason to tell you it's required!! And then they'll issue a "new" version, which is the same version with the chapters moved around. There ought to be a law!! Then when they buy them back for like $5... they turn around and sell it again to make a big profit.... I don't understand how they get away with it. IT's ridiculous!
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:16 AM
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16. Is this from the bookstore?
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 06:17 AM by leftyclimber
I've been able to score some pretty good deals going to half.com, powells.com and occasionally Barnes and Noble's online used books. I'm a grad student, so it's not unusual to read 5 or more books per class I take. Mind you, it's rare we use actual textbooks in my grad program, but even those can be a lot cheaper online.

700 bucks for books is insane.

ETA: Oops, should have read the thread first. You already checked half. Do keep Powells in mind, though. They're both huge and reliable.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:18 AM
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17. Yeah that is from the bookstore...
But it would still cost about 650 bucks to buy them online. Most of the books I need aren't available at the sites I have searched.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:24 AM
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19. One of my books costs nearly 200 dollars through Amazon.
Unfortunately, there is no buying it used it comes with software (which won't be any good after April 15th) One is a brand new book which I won't be able to get used either (available for preorder through Amazon though). And another must be new because when I type in the ibsn number (which I did get from the school bookstore) it never shows up. I'll probably be hitting close to 500 bucks for books.

And they're not even hard cover these days. You used to get a hard covered book. Now, it's a bloody paperback but the cost hasn't come down.

:grr:
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:30 AM
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21. Thanks for the warning.
I have a kid going off to school in about two weeks. Better to get the sticker shock now, rather than in the middle of a crowded bookstore. I was thinking she'd get off in the neighborhood of $500, but now I'm not so sure.

Back in the day (early '80s) I think my textbook bill per semester was perhaps $150. And I always made a point to buy new, because I could not stand marked-up texts.

Textbooks are one hell of a lucrative racket because those in charge know they have a captive audience where market forces don't apply. Spend $200 and get maybe $20 for it at the end of the term -- that's just bullshit.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:37 AM
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22. I wouldn't worry too much...
I'm buying books for 18 credit hours worth of class (2 different majors). So I'm a little above average price wise.


I'd say it will probably cost 500 dollars for books for your kid. But it could be a little more or a little less.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:44 AM
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23. Have you had any experience buying texts through the Internet?
She's talked about doing that but old mom here is leery of the new-fangled technology.

Can you get better deals through, say, Amazon than you can at the bookstore?
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:46 AM
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24. Yes. You can save tons of money...
That's assuming you can find the books online. You need to get the ISBN from each book and look it up. My friends save a ton of money doing that.

It's perfectly safe.

I have never bought books online ( I will be doing it for a few books this semester). However, most of my friends do it.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:50 AM
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27. Thanks! n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:48 AM
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26. Yet another reason I'm glad I got my degree in the "bargain" 1990s....
I took a French class last year at a local community college just for the hell of it, and the books cost almost as much as the credit hours.


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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:42 AM
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29. Been there done that-- and they have poor resale value
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:55 AM
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34. The resale value is very good if used books cost $700.00
while new ones would cost the person $800.00. Unfortunately, it's not the student who benefits.

Iimagine a used textbook in good condition will go thru the hands of many students who pay top price for it. I doubt the publisher and author(s) get that money so it must be the college or university that pockets that extra cash.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:44 AM
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30. I bought a couple of used textbooks for my future DIL off of Ebay. Paid like $4 for
one the bookstores had for $68 used.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:45 AM
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39. My daughter has done this also. Paid under $20 for book with software.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:53 AM
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32. My husband, the college professor, never uses textbooks at all.
He uses digitized "primary sources" and makes all of his course material available online on the course website. He students love him for it. It wasn't so long ago that he was a graduate student and so he still remembers those shocking bookstore receipts.

I know this might not work for every class, but it would be nice to see more educators go "bookless"-- better for the environment too.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:55 AM
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33. Back in the 80's, I paid 150-200 per quarter for books....
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:55 AM
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35. Do what my old room mate used to do.
Go to a large public library, take the book out for the entire semester, and pay the late fee at the end.
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Locrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:58 AM
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36. if you buy used - be careful
I bought a used math book when I was in college. It was a 2nd edition, the class was supposed to be using the 3rd - which was not specified anywhere in the requirements.... f-ed me up ROYALLY for about 2 weeks.

That's another thing that pissed me - they likely change on purpose to force you to buy new. BIG problem when the exercises at the end of the chapter change and you're working (and turning in) the wrong problems.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:10 AM
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37. I just sent the bookstore my course orders for my two classes
First class, $30.
Second class, $52.

I like to keep the cost down for the kiddies.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:14 AM
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38. Why not sell them to other students instead of back to the bookstore? n/t
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