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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:52 PM
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"...AARP would not have endorsed his plans if they were bad for older people."
http://voices.kansascity.com/node/5396

"-- A worried woman asks about her Medicare coverage and how it might be affected by change.

Obama uses it to point out that improvements will be made to Medicare under the proposed reforms, including cutting some costs. And he notes that AARP would not have endorsed his plans if they were bad for older people."

:shrug:


From 2003....

AARP sells out members by endorsing Bush Medicare Drug Benefit Plan!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=725879&mesg_id=725879

AARP Endorses Medicare Drug Benefit Plan

The Associated Press
Monday, November 17, 2003; 1:21 PM

WASHINGTON - "AARP threw the weight of its 35 million members behind a planned Medicare prescription drug benefit on Monday, handing Republicans a pivotal endorsement as they fight Democratic critics.

"We're going to work to get it passed," said AARP chief executive William Novelli in an interview with The Associated Press.

Novelli said the AARP will "pull out all the stops" to get the bill passed, including a three-day television campaign this week.

Novelli said the bill is not perfect, "but the country can't afford to wait for perfect. On balance, it's the right thing for seniors in America and their families."

<snip>The legislation would create a prescription drug benefit for 40 million elderly and disabled Medicare beneficiaries beginning in 2006. The bill would establish a new role for private health plans in Medicare, encouraging them to offer seniors the choice of receiving coverage under managed care plans such as preferred provider organizations."


IN FACT, the GOP Medicare drug benefit plan is an egregious giveaway to the drug companies and managed care providers, which does NOTHING to hold down the cost of drugs. As a matter of FACT, it expressing prohibits the federal government from doing anything to control the cost of drugs. The Democrats must filibuster this bad bill, as no bill is better than this giveaway to the Bush cronies in the pharmaceutical and HMO industries."



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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 02:17 PM
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1. You do know, you are enough in touch with reality to understand
that Democrats will not filibuster this bill. It will not happen.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 03:15 PM
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3. Well thanks, I think, who is talking about filibustering this bill??? ....
what I wanted to point out is the statement by Obama that the AARP would not endorse a plan that was bad for older people.

And that is why I linked the 2003 thread about AARP endorsing the Bush Medicare prescription drug bill.

Sorry I should have made the connection more obvious...they could endorse a bad bill.

:hi:

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 04:34 PM
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5. I not saying you do not have a point, but the reality is they will not filibuster it.
I think that's as about as close to a sure bet that you will find.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 04:44 PM
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6. Thanks...
it just seemed unrelated to the comment that AARP would not pass a bad bill.

As a side note I agree, I would take the bet that they will not filibuster the bill.

:)



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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 04:46 PM
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7. AARP's action on the Bush drug bill is the reason why at age 57 I will not join
no matter how much junk they send me.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:19 PM
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9. Agree, also a reason to be skeptical when told they would not
back a bad bill.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 02:29 PM
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2. THEY ARE NOT ENDORSING NOW .. no matter what you have been told ..
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 02:32 PM by flyarm
AARP tells Obama: No health plan endorsement yet
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writer

Tuesday, August 11, 2009

(08-11) 15:32 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

A group usually seen as one of Barack Obama's allies in the health care debate — AARP — says the president went too far Tuesday when he said the seniors lobby had endorsed the legislation pending in Congress.

AARP is sensitive to the issue because polls show that Medicare beneficiaries are worried their health care program will be cut to subsidize coverage for the uninsured.

At the town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., Obama said, "We have the AARP onboard because they know this is a good deal for our seniors." He added, "AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare."

But Tom Nelson, AARP's chief operating officer, said, "Indications that we have endorsed any of the major health care reform bills currently under consideration in Congress are inaccurate."

Like Obama, AARP wants action this year to cover the uninsured and restrain health care costs, but the organization has refrained from endorsing legislation. Nelson said AARP would not endorse a bill that reduces Medicare benefits.

A spokesman said the Medicare cuts that have been proposed so far would not affect benefits.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/11...



edit to add..AARP knows they lost a lot of people the last time they sold out their customers and seniors..many of whom are aoying for Medicare D now and damn pissed about it.... they are big business and a big insurance corp..so do not look for them to lose that many people again...they will not endorse ..
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 03:22 PM
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4. Thanks for the article and see my reply above ....
what I wanted to point out is the statement by Obama that the AARP would not endorse a plan that was bad for older people.

And that is why I linked the 2003 thread about AARP endorsing the Bush Medicare prescription drug bill.

Sorry I should have made the connection more obvious...they could endorse a bad bill.


Many groups are coming out in favor of reform with TV ads and are quietly working behind the scenes to protect their interests...I think many of them so far are grateful that the Dems have taken SP off the table, hence the ads, but there is still work to be done.

:hi:




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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 04:47 PM
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8. In some ways AARP has lost me
I qualify, but won't sign up until they put their weight behind single payer, Medicare for all.
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