Where are the Christian leaders in the health care debate?

Just heard an excellent piece on the Ed Show so I want to post this question here. Last year, you will recall that the media made a big fuss about President Obama being a muslium. Everyone had an opinion on it from the CHristian leaders to the average citizen.

Now, in a critical debate, where are the christian leaeders. They haven't said anything. You haven't seen Mike Huckabee, James Dobson or any of them come out and speak out on this issue? The health care crisis is a moral issue and if the President wants to get bold on this, he can easily go to these Christian leaders and say can you help us out on this.

Of course, many of them would spit in the President's face and not offer any health. Why do you think these leaders are silent on this issue?

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On edit, sorry, his Israel policy is a "horror" not the health care reform. I'm not sure if he's spoken out about Obama's health care plans.

The Episcopal Church just had it's national convention (they have one every 3 years.) They came out in favor of single-payer. Good Christians are out there in abundance. They just don't get coverage.

They also resolved that GLBT folks can serve anywhere in the church hierarchy.

Their parishoners are affected by the problem.

If not earlier. You might want to find out something about them before you put them down.

Please go ahead and feel free to provide space for a dollar a month to the day center for the homeless family shelter. There's also the 5,000 ready-to-make meals we provide to the local neighbors-helping-neighbors agency. A lot of people would go hungry in our area of the county without that, but you go ahead and take care of that, too. We were going to send another work crew to help repair flood damage, but becase we suck, we'll leave that to you as well. Besides, our money changing tables need re-waxing.

Or, you could put away your broad brush and pitch in.

Don't confuse the two.

Nobody's buying your bigotry here.

I don't see the other poster being a bigot. I see them as being (justifiably) wary of any so-called 'Christian'.

Perhaps 'Christians' should take issue with those other 'Christians' who continually make judgment against and oppress others. Maybe then people won't carry preconceptions about you or your motives.

The evangelical atheists in this thread are the ones who sound personally threatened by the idea that someone here might have faith.

For years, I sat on the fence between atheist/agnostic. After listening to obnoxious atheists, I decided I was agnostic. After reading more and more crap about religion on this board, I felt I had to defend my former faith, so I decided to visit an Episcopalian church. I now consider myself an Episcopalian, and I have the evangelical atheists to thank.

My church does not require that I believe in fairy tales.

Or is it only about casseroles?

budget shortfall. Maybe we should suggest they cancel their health insurance in favor of faith-based health care.

http://blog.sojo.net/2009/08/12/we-must-act-on-health-care/

there was a good post on here with his recent e-mail alert as well-

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as the corporate media does with everything else?

Only a very slim margin of the debate is being discussed. The vast majority of Americans have no ability to be heard or heard from on this matter.

But remember, Rick Warren deserves honor, Lt Dan Choi deserves to be fired. So we need to honor Warren some more, fire more gay people, and then the Christians will be out for us in droves! It is sure to work this time!

there's a thread around here somewhere about it.

voting against health care for all american citizens....they only pop up when it is a benefit to the gop..otherwise that voice needs to be silent..good little sheep that they are...

We're not all ignorant, bigoted, narrowminded fundies...

The denomination I serve has been doing work for years...

http://www.elca.org/Our-Faith-In-Action/Justice/Advocacy/Issues/Health-Policy-and-Global-Disease/Health-Care-Reform.aspx

But many religious leaders don't hog the spotlight on FOX,
nor do they have radio programs which promote bigotry.

It's a justice issue.. which should be the heart of anyone who
claims to be faithful.

And... no, we don't believe in fairy tales,
just telling the truth in love,
serving one another,
feeding the hungry and poor,
and promoting fair and equitable life for all.