Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Another officer beating up a handcuffed minor

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Wolf-Were Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:37 AM
Original message
Another officer beating up a handcuffed minor
I just love our police here in Michigan ....................what patience and understanding...... NOT!!!


http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/08/video_shows_officer_punching_t.html


KALAMAZOO -- Video of an incident that led to a Kalamazoo Department of Public Safety sergeant's unpaid suspension last week shows the officer punched a handcuffed 16-year-old three times after the youth spit in his face.

Sgt. Jeff VanderWiere, 37, was suspended last week for 10 work days after an Office of Professional Standards investigation into the April incident.

The Kalamazoo Police Supervisors Association has filed a grievance on the suspension.
The video and police documents related to the case and VanderWiere, a 12-year department veteran, were released by the city Tuesday after the Gazette filed a request under the Michigan Freedom of Information Act.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:44 AM
Response to Original message
1. If MY boy acted like that I would hope he would get his ass beat.
No shit. I watched the video. Maybe the cop shouldn't have hit the kid, but the kid damned well earned it.

Threatened to shoot the cop and spit in his face.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wolf-Were Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. No he should have walked away
had another officer take over and charge him with assault end of story.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Exactly. I don't know why so many feel like it's okay for the cop to retaliate and extract
punishment on the spot when this can only lead to more and bigger problems including escalation of danger at the scene of the incident. Cops must be professional and control their emotions.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #2
11. yup, that would have been the professional thing to do
but that ship has sailed...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #1
10. what a coward, beating him up with cuffs on?
loser. no wonder he needs to carry weapons on his job.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. The coward is the kid who knows he can't be held accountable for his actions.
If a grown man threatens and spits on another grown man he gets what he gets.
A 16 year old threatens and spits on a cop,,,,,, nothing. Nothing from his parents either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. wrong, hitting a kid in handcuffs is the most cowardly thing i can think of
and he's an adult and supposedly professionally trained in the use of force (which turned out to be a waste of money).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:47 AM
Response to Original message
3. That suspect was out of control
I probably would have hit him too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wolf-Were Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. No he should have walked away...
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 11:50 AM by Wolf-Were
That officer needs anger management.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. me too, but you're not a cop
and that's why neither of us should be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:57 AM
Response to Original message
5. That kid was a jerk but the officer should not have lowered himself to his level
Because he let this kid get under his skin and lost control of his emotions, he's in a whole lot of trouble.

Unfortunately he did not act very professionally. He'll just have to deal with the consequences.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. the cop didn't lower himself to the kid's level, he hit a restrained kid
big difference.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:00 PM
Original message
Not an excuse - but how would you react if a 16 year old spit in your face?
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 12:02 PM by stray cat
after threatening to shoot you. I'm sure you would smile and buy him a beer. I don't know too many guys who let people spit in their face and threaten their life without responding.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wolf-Were Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
7. He was handcuffed DUH spray him..nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:36 PM
Response to Original message
9. The kid "won" that encounter. He forced the cop to act emotionally
rather than thinking. The kid was handcuffed. He should have just laughed at him. In different circumstances an emotional reaction like the officer exhibited could leave him vulnerable and even put him in moral danger. He's supposed to be above all that. Sorry. He fucked up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
6. I've stuck up for cops recently, but this is not cool
There are ways for cops to deal with spitting people...like pulling the fronts of their shirts over their heads so any more spitting is futile...

I don't care who you are...you don't beat someone up who's handcuffed and totally incapacitated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:34 PM
Response to Original message
15. Recommend
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:23 PM
Response to Original message
17. It's a lot safer for you when the person you are beating is tied up somehow ...
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 05:24 PM by bemildred
:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 04:03 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC