Your part in medical education: would you let someone train on you?

hedgehog

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Fri Aug-14-09 11:25 PM
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Poll question: Your part in medical education: would you let someone train on you?

I get checked out by medical students all the time since my family doctor works with the local medical school to give them some experience. Generally, the student does the workup, then tells the doctor his findings and recommendations. The doctor will question the student and make his own exam as he sees fit.

Now that's not surgery, but someone has to go first. Would you?

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MannyGoldstein

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Fri Aug-14-09 11:30 PM
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1. When You Live in Boston, You Get Used To the Students...

I think it's fun, and the good news that it means that your at a teaching hospital that has the best docs around if they're needed.

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Tangerine LaBamba

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Fri Aug-14-09 11:32 PM
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2. Teaching hospitals are the best -

that's been my experience. I have absolutely no problem with students who are very closely supervised by experienced physicians.

As for surgery, hey, when you're under, you have no idea who's doing what to you. Don't kid yourself. Everyone's got to start somewhere, and, as I said, with an experienced surgeon standing by, it's a safe bet.............................

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hedgehog

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Fri Aug-14-09 11:37 PM
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3. I'd rather have a student under close supervision than a licensed

surgeon using a new technique for only the fourth or fifth time!

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elleng

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Sat Aug-15-09 12:36 AM
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8. Ditto.

Been going to teaching hospital for years. Seen a lot of students in E.R., and engage them in lots of conversations.

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Warpy

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Fri Aug-14-09 11:46 PM
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4. My last hospitalization was in a teaching hospital

and I only ran into one grandstanding asshole. He was smirking and cocky and he's going to be one of that 5% of doctors responsible for 50% of lawsuits.

I actually prefer teaching hospitals with the docs with the most up to date knowledge possible doing team practice.

I've been open to student nurses, too, but they rarely give RNs to them as patients, even though I took one on when I was a student.

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busybl

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Fri Aug-14-09 11:56 PM
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5. they already do that

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mwooldri

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Sat Aug-15-09 12:04 AM
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6. Yes. Definitely.

In your example above that's early on... then you get newly minted doctors who haven't done certain procedures... and they get together with other doctors to practice these procedures. Then you have experienced surgeons who still aren't 100% confident about a particular rare procedure and will be collaborating with their peers to ensure that the job is done right.

There is a reason why they call medicine a practice, because in a lot of cases, they are practicing...

Mark.

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XemaSab

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Sat Aug-15-09 12:08 AM
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7. For basic stuff, sure

For example, if I needed a pin put in my ankle, or my appendix out, I would be happy to let a student do it.

For complicated neurosurgery, I would prefer someone with some experience. :scared:

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emilyg

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Sat Aug-15-09 12:44 AM
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9. Yes.

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LooseWilly

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Sat Aug-15-09 12:49 AM
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10. The last "medical" work I got was as a "final" for a dental student at UCSF.

I had some sort of hole in a tooth that was what this student needed for a final. I was spotted when I went into the school dental clinic... and got free treatment because I was needed for the final. There was no way for the student to know in advance just how much my drinking habit could increase my tolerance to novacaine... but she'll never forget that possibility in her professional work ever... and luckily for her... I didn't mind coping with the failing painkiller doses while being worked on for free... so I didn't waste her time hassling her for more pain killers...

Someone has to go first?... Does that qualify? I think... yes.

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REP

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Sat Aug-15-09 12:50 AM
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11. I have a complicated medical history, including a rare renal disease

I let students participate all the time, but I need someone who knows what they're doing when I'm sick.

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Maru Kitteh

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Sat Aug-15-09 12:53 AM
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12. I already have, many, many times.

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