Republicans are pathological liars.

That needs to be said hundreds of times a day.

If we're going to debate stupid things like death panels we should at least always start the debate with that sentence.

They/you are a LIAR!

A lie is a lie is a lie....

It puts us in a position of weakness not to state the facts right away.

Saying things like.. "That's untrue" or "That's misleading" or "That's incorrect"

Sounds like weasel words and makes people think.. "Well if it's not true why don't they just say so there must be something to it"

Death panels are a lie and people who say there are real are liars. PERIOD!

The conservation should go like this...

Citizen: Are there death panels?

Left: No. That's a lie.

Citizen: Why are the Republicans saying that?

Left: Because their liars.

Citizen: Why are they lying?

Left: Because they're pathological liars. There is no reason. Pathological liars lie just to lie.

Left: Why do you even listen to anything they say? It's a waste of time.


That should be done with every lie they tell.

Living in the UK I have never heard this term before - so I have just had to look it up! Dear me...this does not happen in the UK I can tell you that...but what does happen is.....

If you are suffering from a terminal illness - for example a cancer sufferer treatment has not been successful then there will be a discussion between the patient and Doctor regarding stopping the treatment as it is no longer working. Arrangements are then usually made so that people then have treatment not to try and eliminate the cancer but in order to try and prolong life as long as possible.

There have been occasions when people have been denied treatment - but I feel this needs some explaining....

I had a friend who was diagnosed with bowel cancer a few years ago, after the usual treatment which lasted two years it became clear that the cancer was spreading and that it had became terminal. My friend did some investigation into an experimental drug but it was refused on the NHS as the evidence for such a drug working was not clear and it was found that it was very unlikely to cure my friend. My friend eventually landed up paying for the treatment himself and alas the NHS was right, it did not help to cure his cancer and he passed away. Of course this is very sad and the finger could be pointed at the NHS for not giving him this experimental treatment, but the way I see it to pay for treatment that has no proven track record of working could deny someone regular treatment which is proven to work - thanks to the treatment my friend did get two or three extra years alive with his wife and young children. Sometimes you get ill and you will not recover, that is a fact of life - no one was to blame for my friend dying but the NHS helped him live a little longer with his family.

It would seem those who are in the pockets of the insurance companies are using these kinds of examples and creating spin in order to line their wallets even further

The death panels are a phony debate.

Welcome to DU. We can use some testimony from Brits. The conservatives are lying about your healthcare system everyday.

the death panel crap.

Like "They are liars" will help clear that up.

out on it and pointed out just what the hell they are! Since they like to wrap their arms around religion and the flag, they should be reminded of one of the ten commandments Thou Shall Not Lie!

pathological variety.

Instrumental liars only lie when it will profit them to do so.

The answer to "Why are they lying?" then becomes "Because it makes it easier for them to continue to steal from you."