I still support Obama.

During last year's campaign I did anything I could to help. On the evening of Nov.4th I was among those who whooped and hollered and wept for joy. On January 20th I joined the raucus cheering as we heard him say "...so help me God."

One of the greatest appeals, for me, was his lack of inclination to exercise unilateral authority. As pissy as the Republicans have been thus far, there is ample public and very visible record to demonstrate that they have not been ignored, that they have been invited to participate. Their teeth marks are all over the hand he has repeatedly extended to them. So, yes, sometimes I do wish that he'd just kick them to the nearest curb while loudly reminding them who won the election. Fortunately for all of us he's smarter than I am, and has a heck of a lot more class.

Watching the health care 'discussions' is of particular interest, seeing as how I've relied on disability benefits for almost 20 years. While I was going through extensive rehabilitation I watched the Republicans maul and kill the Clinton efforts at reform, particularly discouraging because I wouldn't be disabled in the first place had there been some kind of assured access to appropriate care. It's not at all surprising that they're restaging that fight. The levels of abject mendacity and the outright racism of their methods are disappointing at best and frightening at worst. It has become increasingly clear that they are seeking to preserve and protect the vulgar greed of the insurance companies that contribute so handsomely to their election coffers.

The Republicans have been stonewalling health care reform for over sixty years, so it's ridiculous when they whine about 'rushing things.' It is the Republicans who have chosen to take a stand against the best interests of the people of this country, deciding to use the issue of health care as a weapon with which they target the legitimate presidency of a Democrat who has the effrontery to be Black.

I do not expect Obama to snap his fingers and magically overcome sixty years of carefully constructed opposition. I do expect him to continue to demonstrate his refreshing proclivity to gather and examine information prior to either speech or action. Is he perfect? Hell no. Is his presidency the best chance we have for overcoming the opposition to what's best for all of us? Hell yes.

Instead of telling us to 'go shopping' he invited us to become involved, to stay involved. In so doing he reversed the eight-year-long insult that was the locked-door maladministration of governance by greed. So, I go to the 'town halls' and other venues where health care is being discussed. There are letters-to-editors to be written, phone calls to be made, signs to be painted. I approach all this with no expectation of perfect legislation being the outcome; after all, humans are involved and we have yet to demonstrate perfection in anything. Our history as a nation (as a species, for that matter) is one of re-writing the script when the scene didn't play out the way we thought it should. We live, we learn, we grow. I do expect legislation that begins the journey toward full best coverage for all of us.

And I remain thankful for this particular President, without whom we would not even be having the discussion.

which is what far too many do instead of really becoming involved and yet what do they do....simply bash him...makes me ill

The Republicans have nothing to do with this! Where's is the community organizer and the well run political machine? Why no march on Washington and state capitals?

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I have always been a Democrat but now I am beginning to wonder what has happened to the party.
This health care plan is more about controlling the people than health care, and this is not the government I, or a majority of Americans want.

I think it is hurting the party and the next election will really tell us what the voters think about all this. I have a feeling that the Republicans will be back in control the next time around.

The American people are really not ready for a socialist type government.

I for one will have to say that I have voters remorse. Obama has not done what he said he was going to do and we are all going to be paying higher taxes to help pay for his plan.

and the sentence that gave you away was...." This health care plan is more about controlling the people than health care, and this is not the government I, or a majority of Americans want.....

The American people are really not ready for a socialist type government."


So far as I'm concerned, you are talking a bunch of shit and belong elsewhere...now Freeper!

I'm sorry, I didn't know this board was only for Democrats who buy into what the far left of the party is trying to do without our consent.
Most of my friends are very disappointed after voting these people in and then watching while they destroy everything that we think our party stood for.

Do we need a special board for those of us that can see what's going wrong with the party, or can we all just work together to save it before it is too late?

my support is CONDITIONAL.

PERIOD.

Always has been, is now, and will be in the future.

we shall see, we shall see...

and I do NOT like what I see so far...

Obama's weekly address of 17 July 2009
Quote from the address:

"<...> That's why any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange; a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, costs and track records of a variety of plans - including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest, and choose what's best for your family. <...>"

the corporations beat him . . . just as they would beat anyone who tried to tamper with their absolute control of healthcare and the profits that go along with it . . .

even if they wanted to, neither the Congress nor the President are powerful enough to defeat the corporations . . . whether the issue is healthcare, energy, war, agriculture, the environment, whatever, the corporations making billions of dollars off the existing system will do everything in their power to maintain the status quo -- and their profits . . .

and they don't mind spending a small portion of those profits to keep their politicians in line . . .

Corporations and Republicans (even when "out of power") run this country. Just cause we have a Dem in as figurehead does not mean I'm on board if he can't accomplish shit. He either mans up and fights for us, THE PEOPLE, or my support for him is DONE. :grr: :mad:

then we have officially journeyed toward fascism and I defy anyone to argue otherwise. 70 years later, American politicians and business leaders have decided to take their cues from Mussolini. Some country.

I can't believe it's come to this in this country. We are being offered PUBLIC HEALTH CARE finally like the rest of the industrialized world has - true it won't be single payer as it should be, but still - if Obama can't even get us THIS - a freaking OPTION - WTF is the point ya know - other than to enrich the insurance companies. We need REAL reform, or none at all. :grr:

How could the Republicans run the country, when the Democrats have the majority in the house and can pass laws without them.
The far left has taken over the party and they are more than a figurehead, they control the vote and pretty much shut the Republicans out.
They are afraid to pass the health care bill without the Reps on board because it would look bad for them when it fails. When it wrecks the economy and makes a giant step into Socialism.

you are the one afraid of Democrats buddy. While things are looking bleak at the moment at the end of the day reform will pass Ind like Bill Clinton said a few days ago, his approval ratings will go back up and once the economy turns around, Dems will kick serious booty in the midterms.

when you use terms like "far left", you're kind of giving yourself away.. oh and your lame socialism comment didn't help either.. bwhahahah! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Between being a spineless corporate loser on health care, he has been expanding government secrecy. Remember when we all screamed about Cheney's secret meeting with energy officials? Obama met in secret with health insurance officials. I am sure that's when the bribing took place and why he didn't want us to know just who he was meeting with.

Fuck this kind of "change".