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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:01 PM
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What makes Kathleen Sebelius qualified to be Secretary of Health?
does she have any medical background or experience with healthcare?

So she was apparently a State Insurance commissioner for Kansas, which somehow makes her qualified to be the Secretary of Health and Human Services? Isn't that kind of like putting the executive of an insurance company in charge of HHS? Sebelius may understand insurance and business, but has no experience with patients. No healthcare background whatsoever, at least none that I can find. And Obama picked this person over Dr. Howard Dean? Jesus Christ.

(She doesn't even seem to know the difference between public option and co-ops, forcing the White House to come out and correct some of her statements, which made me curious to find out about her background.)




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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:06 PM
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1. Tom Daschle was supposed to be Secretary of Health and he declined because
there is something he was afraid about that he wouldn't pass scrutiny. I think he still is and Sebelius takes phone calls from him.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:20 AM
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14. That would be BS because
Daschle's problem was with having not paid taxes on many of th ebennies he received from various corporate parties.... most prominent among them being The Health Care/Health Insurance Industry.







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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:28 AM
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19. If you read my post, I think we would be in agreement.n/t
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 11:19 AM
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24. The part I had trouble with was this

"Isn't that kind of like putting the executive of an insurance company in charge of HHS? Sebelius may understand insurance and business, but has no experience with patients."

In my view (but I come from the odious Insurance Industry) the analogy is wrong. Sebelius, as an Insurance Commissioner, would be like putting an incorruptible cop (yeah, go ahead and laugh) in charge of Mafia oversight, instead of some corrupt and on-the-take councilman.

Fact is, it is more important to have, as a regulator, someone know the business model rather than the day to day operations. Some people could do both, as could Dr. Dean, whom I also support. But, if a candidate doesn't have experience on both sides, the best bet is a regulator from the outside (Tim Geithner being an excellent example of a bad choice, in that regards, IMHO). Otherwise I think we agree.

Sebelius was a very early supporter of Obama. And is an Obama Loyalist. And, truth be told, I think that loyalty is her weakest point. Sen. McCaskill, of Missouri, bears the same pluses and minuses, BTW, IMHO.


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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:14 PM
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2. She was Ins Comm of KS for 8 years and the first Dem in like 80 years or something
crazy like that. She was the first (and only) one to be Ins Comm and not take campaign money from insurance companies. It is not like putting an insurance exec in the office. They don't like her.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:17 AM
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13. Roger !!! It is true, true, true...
It would not be Sebelius who threw anything under the bus. If the words are from her mouth, they are directed by someone "further up".

Figure it out. You know who called the shot. She was TOLD to make whatever statements that were made.



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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:16 PM
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3. oh gawd.
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chicago legal pro Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:19 PM
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4. She was nominated by the President
That is the only qualification needed under the Constitution.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:26 PM
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5. Yes
but it doesn't make her the most qualified.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:38 PM
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8. Yes it does, because she was the most nominated.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 12:21 AM
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31. An insurance commissioner is more qualified than a doctor?
to run the health department? seriously?
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:22 AM
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15. perhaps Saul Alinsky would
be the most qualified ?? Think he could have been confirmed??



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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:34 PM
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6. She was good enough for the President.
Shouldn't she be good enough for us?
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Lorax7844 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:40 PM
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9. not if she sucks at her job
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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 05:24 PM
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27. It is not your job to hire or fire anyone
That designation belongs to the president. If you don't like his decisions you have a vote like everybody else!
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:11 AM
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10. ... and she is infinitely more qualified than any Bush appointee ever to boot! n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:38 PM
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7. ask obama. nt
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:39 AM
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11. Well, she looked really blond while she was delivering the news...
that we were totally screwed on health care reform. I guess that's something.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:28 AM
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18. That hair is...
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 01:29 AM by galloglas
SILVER!! The usual term applied to the hair of "elder statesmen" who are well-respected and wise.

Sebelius is no patsy for the Insurance Industry, and if she gave any ground, it was because "higher-ups" (not Daschle's phone) told her to do so.


edit for syntax:




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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:43 AM
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12. Sebelius sucks
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:31 AM
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21. Don't shoot the messengers!!
If you want to bitch, call out the ones who make the decisions.







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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:23 AM
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16. :facepalm:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:25 AM
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17. I really wanted Dean for the Job
but I'm willing to be patient
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:30 AM
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20. Me too. Not using his talents and experience for this position is
a loss for this country.
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Lorax7844 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:29 AM
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22. agreed 100%
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 11:15 AM
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23. self delete
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 11:20 AM by galloglas






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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 11:21 AM
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25. The same two things that make Leon Panetta qualified to run the spook agency:
Management skills and Obama's nomination.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 11:33 AM
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26. When she was Insurance Commissioner....
She watched insurance companies like a hawk and pounced on them when the stepped out of bounds.

I believe she was a strong advocate of public option, so she may not be inspired by the co-op crap. Kind of like when you are trying to get people to believe something you do not believe in yourself.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:03 PM
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28. Because the President that nominated
her believed she was qualified for that post in his cabinet. The Senate of the United States agreed with him when they confirmed her for that position.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:06 PM
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29. She is bought and paid for by the insurance companies.
The only qualification necessary. They do not actually want to reform health care; they want to reward insurance companies. They simply do not care that these companies are run by evil, greedy fuckers who only care about the bottom line.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:40 PM
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30. All stupid fucks shall Inherit the Wind.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 01:52 AM
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32. especially considering who was passed over for the job- Dr. Dean
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