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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 05:55 AM
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Simply put, it's all because he's black.
I've thought all along that no matter what President Obama tries to do...the racists of this country will fight him at every turn...not because his policies are wrong or bad or socialist or whatever, but because the man is not white. And not only is he not white, he's BLACK. Do these people think their biased hatred doesn't really show? :mad:


Good commentary here:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/08/17/2009-08-17_its_obama_theyre_after.html

I am so angry at these so-called "American Patriots" that I could spit on them. :mad: :mad: :mad:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:05 AM
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1. that's a significant factor but hardly the only one
remember what happened when Clinton tried healthcare reform?
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:16 AM
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3. Yes, but...
as I remember, he was one of those kinds of people that you either loved or hated. Plus he did the god-awful thing of putting a woman in charge of health care reform. How dare he! I don't know whether that reform would have been good or bad, but it's clear that we need help now and it's a shame that people are fighting against it for the wrong reasons. If they'd open their minds, maybe we could actually get some bipartison support and stop all this foolishness. It's just so frustrating.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:21 AM
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5. look, the healthcare reform opponents are wedded to corporate
interests and whatever the color of the president, they'd be fighting reform like the dickens. Of course racism is clearly evident re Obama, but the fight over healthcare reform isn't because of it.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:24 AM
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6. Agreed - yes, he's black, but that's not it - its the MONEY!
The insurance companies don't give a dam that he's black - its the money.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:36 AM
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9. True, but
look at the people the insurance companies are recruiting to the townhalls. That segment of society, the ones we're seeing on the news (real and faux), are the bigots of our country. The insurance companies aren't telling them to be angry, they are just stirring the pot and giving the bigots an outlet for their "manufactured rage". They are mad that Obama is our President and yelling about health care and socialism and big government provides them with a way to yell at this man that they hate. I know there's a lot more to this issue than meets the eye, but the ones making all the noise don't know diddly squat about it. They're being used and they are eager to comply because it gives them a soapbox.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:50 AM
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17. I am perfectly willing to accept and adopt your version
Yep, you're right. You say it well too which is something I always apprciate. Thank you.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:06 AM
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2. That is exactly it
We have a long ways to go before we are really a non-racist country. I feel it won't happen until most of us present day inhabitants are long gone due to us dying off. Maybe in our grand childrens day will the color of ones skin be a non issue.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:18 AM
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4. Living in MS, I can tell you that Bill Clinton
was just as hated here.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:25 AM
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7. I still LOVE him! n/t
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:43 AM
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12. I really appreciated Clinton more
after eight years of Bush.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:03 AM
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20. Carter punched the Right cards: Born again, Naval Academy and that insulated him from this shit. nt
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rve300 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:33 AM
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8. Have you ever been outside of the United States?
You are right about one thing, the racists will fight him at every turn. But you are wrong if you think they have any impact on the debate.

I have been all around this planet, maybe 40-50 different countries.

Americans are below average when it comes to racism. Black, white, brown, yellow, the entire planet has a racist minority.

As long as you keep using this crutch of blaming any opposition on racism you will never really understand what you are up against.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:45 AM
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15. I'd like to think we're better than all those 40-50 countries you've been to.
I think that these people are already having an impact on the debate. They are getting as much coverage of their behavior as the issue of health care itself, and the right wing leaders are just sitting back enjoying the show. They don't care how President Obama goes down, just as long as he goes down. Causing hate and discontent, whether it's over this issue or some other, is their agenda. How sad that those who need health care help won't get it due to this idiocy.
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rve300 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:10 AM
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24. You are!!!
That is the point. When they continue to blame racism they overlook all the real reasons that the opposition is against reform.
The vast majority of the folks that are having the impact are not racist. If health care supporters continue to play a race card then the people they are fighting for will loose out. Quit looking for the diversion and figure out why.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:02 AM
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28. So spill it, Morpheus.
What's the diversion? What are we up against?

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rve300 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:38 AM
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31. My 2 cents
I would guess it is the wallet that motivates a population that has 9.5 percent unemployment, and a retirement account that has halved in the last 2 years. Sure as hell does not make them racist. Middle America does not feel that health care is the big problem. When you call them racist because they have different priorities then you give the whole debate a diversion that can not be overcome.

You need to convince them that the plan will not cost them any money. But no government program has even come in on budget, so that is hard to do. Most conservatives didn't like the fact that Bush spent as much as he did. Is stands to reason that they would be even more upset about spending 4 times as much the next year.

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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:05 AM
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23. if you deny racism
you are a racist.

QED
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rve300 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:17 AM
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25. Where did I deny racism?
I am pretty sure I posted that it was all over the planet.

But thanks for calling someone a racist whom you have never met.

Give up your crutch, not all folks who disagree with you are racist!
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:37 AM
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10. the racist
people wouldn't be so important if the media did not pay them attention. The focus of the debate needs to go to those who support it. Those who are against it have had their time in the spotlight long enough.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:37 AM
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11. No. It's because the idea of real reform endangers certain huge piles of money.
Our president's ethnicity is simply a convenient way to motivate a few more of the ignorant to support the corporate status quo.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:44 AM
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14. Exactly
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:03 AM
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21. It's about the money. nt
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:43 AM
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13. Too simplistic. What if the Prez was not black?
A few votes here and there, and our prez would be HRC.

Think the manic screamers at the town halls would be quieter?

:hi:
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:49 AM
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16. Well, now that you mention it...
No, but they'd be biased because she's a woman and the bigots STILL wouldn't care about their fellow Americans. :rofl:
Geez!!!!
Guess I can't win for losing on this one...
:hi:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:02 AM
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19. They called FDR a commie and said he was crippled because Eleanor gave him VD form having sex
with black men.

The problem is that Obama is a DEMOCRAT.

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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:27 AM
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30. So Eleanor's the reason FDR didn't give us Single-Payer health care
damn her!

:hi:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:01 AM
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18. Bill Clinton caught the Same Shit. At least Obama hasn't been accused of being a murderer, yet. nt
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euphoria12leo Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:14 AM
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29. I Remember When
someone in the military an Officer called Bill Clinton a draft dodging, dope smoking, gay loving, womanizing President while speaking on a college campus. Of course he was kicked out of the military and lost his stripes and benefits. So I agree part of the problem is Obama is black. But not the whole problem. We are dealing with some of the same people Clinton had to deal with and these people are bat-shit crazy.

Has Obama been accused of murder? Give em time.



:mad:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:05 AM
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22. No. Not all. Quite a bit at the lowest level of dipshit but not all.
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 07:06 AM by YOY
It wouldn't matter what color he was...what he says endangers a parasitic industry.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:31 AM
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26. The Public Option has nothing to do with Blackness. It is the difference
between being a Democrat and a Republican.

The Public Option is the only thing making this a Democratic Bill.

The Racists are another issue.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:53 AM
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27. If what you say is true
then Barack Obama wouldn't have been elected in the first place. You cannot elect a non-DLC'er as President in this country with just voters from the urban areas.

Barack Obama got the votes of non-urban white America because he was not threatening to them, he was a clear break from the "burn, baby, burn" black power days of forty years ago. What's happened since? Rush Limpballs, etc., who couldn't make the socialism charge stick last year, are finally able to use the great uncertainty over what will happen to healthcare to successfully pin the "radical" label onto the President and his supporters in Congress.

It's just a matter of who got their message out, that's all.
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