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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:51 AM
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Message to Barack: You have two options
The Public Option or the 2012 Primary Option. You feel me?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:52 AM
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1. Good luck with that
:eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:55 AM
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2. That slacker! You threaten him. I'm sure he'll take that
seriously... :eyes:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

# Signed executive orders to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, within a year, ban torture and end the CIA’s secret overseas prisons and define treatment of Detainees.
# Reversed restrictions on stem cell research.
# Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Reducing discrimination based on gender, age, religion, or race.
# Signed an executive order reversing the ban that prohibits funding to international family planning groups that provide abortions. Gag rule revoked (Mexico City policy).
# Creates the White House Council on Women and Girls "to provide a coordinated federal response to the challenges confronted by women and girls and to ensure that all Cabinet and Cabinet-level agencies consider how their policies and programs impact women and families."
# Signed a Presidental Memorandum extending federal benefits to same-sex partners of federal workers and announced support for the Domestic Partners Benefits and Obligations Act of 2009.
# Reverses U.S. position on LGBT Issues at the UN: At the "Durban Review Conference," U.S. supports language condemning “all forms of discrimination and all other human rights violations based on sexual orientation.”
# Signed executive order requiring federal contractors to offer jobs to current workers when contracts change.
# Reversed a Bush order requiring federal contractors to post notice that workers can limit financial support of unions serving as their exclusive bargaining representatives.
# Signed executive order preventing federal contractors from being reimbursed for expenses meant to influence workers deciding whether to form a union and engage in collective bargaining.
# Created a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners.
# Expanded eligibility for the refinancing portion of the Making Home Affordable plan to help Americans struggling with distressed mortgages refinance at lower interest rates, even if they owe up to 25 percent more than their homes are now worth.
# Established a credit card "bill of rights".
# Expanded loan programs for small businesses.
# Extended and index the 2007 Alternative Minimum Tax patch.
# Expanded eligibility for State Children's Health Insurance Fund (SCHIP).
# Expanded funding to train primary care providers and public health practitioners.
# Created a new White House task force on the problems of middle-class Americans, and installed Vice President Joe Biden as its chairman.
# Appoints Vice President Joe Biden to Oversee Stimulus Plan Payouts.
# Granted a reprieve to Liberian immigrants facing imminent expulsion.
# Directed military leaders to end war in Iraq.
# Allowing Caskets to be photographed when the return from Iraq with family approval.
# Released nine previously secret internal Justice Department memos and opinions defining the legal limits of government power in combating terrorism.
# On Arab TV Network, Obama Urges Dialogue.
# Gave a speech in Cairo engaging the Muslim and Arab world.
# Bars independent contractors from conducting interrogations of terror suspects.
# Granted Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and send money to Cuba.
# Ordered the release of nearly a quarter of a million pages of records from the Reagan White House that were kept from the public during a lengthy review by President George W. Bush.
# Restored funding for the Byrne Justice Assistance Grant (Byrne/JAG) program.
# Released presidential records.
# Required new hires to sign a form affirming their hiring was not due to political affiliation or contributions.
# Pushed for enactment of Matthew Shepard Act, which expands hate crime law to include sexual orientation and other factors.
# Invites gay families to the Easter Egg Roll as part of the Obama administration's outreach to diverse communities.
# Created a White House Office on Urban Policy.
# Increased funding for the NEA.
# Appointed an assistant to the president for science and technology policy.
# Funded a major expansion of AmeriCorps.
# Banned lobbyist gifts to executive employees.
# Investment in all types of alternative energy.
# Enacted tax credit for consumers for plug-in hybrid cars.
# Support for high-speed rail.
# Provided grants to encourage energy-efficient building codes.
# Extended unemployment insurance benefits and temporarily suspend taxes on these benefits.
# Created the White House Council on Automotive Communities and Workers to help auto industry workers transition to new manufacturing opportunities, including jobs in alternative energy.
# Stopped raids on medical marijuana dispensers.
# Nominated Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court of the United States. If confirmed, Sotomayor would be the first Hispanic to ever serve on the Supreme Court.
# Appointed more than 60 openly LGBT persons to positions in the executive branch.
# Issues Presidential Proclamation for Pride, proclaiming June 2009 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month.
# Signed a mercury reduction pact with 140 other nations.
# Signed the Weapons System Acquisition Reform Act to curb wasteful spending by the Pentagon. Intended to price contracts and budgets lower; may potentially save billions of dollars in defense.
# Signed the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009, which serves to protect two million acres of land and creates a new system of land conservation for the Bureau of Land Management.
# Phase out government payments to crop producers making more than $500,000 a year and eliminates subsidies for cotton storage to help trim the U.S. budget deficit.
# Cut funding for a proposed U.S. nuclear storage facility at Yucca Mountain.
# Restored Endangered Species Act Provision requiring U.S. agencies consult with independent federal experts to determine if their actions might harm threatened and endangered species.
# Orders The Chesapeake Bay Protection and Restoration "to protect and restore the health, heritage, natural resources, and social and economic value of the Nation's largest estuarine ecosystem and the natural sustainability of its watershed."
# Signed the 2009 Omnibus Public Land Management Act designating two million additional acres of public wilderness areas the highest level of government protection from logging and other forms of commercial use and development.
# Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act which will expedite the search for cures and treatments for millions of Americans living with paralysis caused by spinal cord injury, stroke, MS, Parkinson's and many other diseases and disorders.
# Established The Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record, a new system for updating medical records of servicemen and women both during and after their military careers.
# Established the White House Office of Health Reform
# Created new and stronger safety standards to safeguard the country's food supply.

and

# Got his daughters a new puppy!


And his first 100 days? What a slacker!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


Lots of imbedded links in this for more in-depth info...

http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/pr20090429/index.ht ...

Obama's 100 Days Of Progress


Today marks 100 days since President Obama took office. Yesterday, The Progress Report examined how conservatives chose to spend their first 100 days. Today, we highlight the accomplishments of the Obama administration.

President Barack Obama took the oath of office on Jan. 21, 2009, with two broad mandates bestowed upon him by the American people: repair the mess that President Bush and his administration left behind after eight disastrous years in office, and enact a bold, progressive agenda that includes fixing our nation's health care system and seriously addressing global climate change. Obama went to work right away, pushing the "biggest, boldest countercyclical fiscal stimulus in American history" through Congress -- a $787 billion dollar measure that not only creates jobs but also provides investments in energy, transportation, education and health care. Obama also announced his intention to shift focus and resources away from Bush's misbegotten adventure in Iraq and refocus on Afghanistan, where the security situation is worse than it has been since the start of the U.S.-led war there in October 2001. Now, a series of recent public opinion polls shows that the American public not only overwhelmingly approves of the job Obama is doing as president, but they also believe the nation is heading in the right direction -- "the first time in years the nation has held such an optimistic view of its future." For example, a new ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 50 percent of Americans now say the country is on the right track (48 percent say the wrong track), compared with just 13 percent who had the same feeling last October (85 percent said the U.S. was heading in the wrong direction at that time). Indeed, in his first 100 days in office, Obama has received the support of the American public to implement the progressive agenda he campaigned on.

BREAK FROM BUSH: Shortly after taking office, Obama worked quickly to repair the damage done under Bush and has, in total, issued 29 executive decisions reversing Bush administration policy. On his first day as president, Obama signed an executive order mandating the closure of the Guantanamo Bay terror detainee prison camp within one year. The next day, he ordered military leaders to establish a plan for a responsible withdrawal from Iraq,and he signed executive orders ending CIA secret prisons and ending torture by requiring that all interrogations abide by the Army Field Manual. Obama put these first actions as president in simple terms. "We intend to win this fight" against terrorists, he said. But "we are going to win it on our own terms." On the domestic front, Obama reversed Bush's restrictions on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research in March, asserting that his administration would "make scientific decisions based on facts, not ideology." In London at the G20 Summit and in other European capitals earlier this month, Obama reassured America's friends and allies that the United States would reengage the world as an equal partner. "We're starting to see some restoration of America's standing in the world," Obama said in London. " It is "very important for us to be able to forge partnerships as opposed to dictating solutions." As far as "dictating solutions," Obama also ditched Bush's "with us or against us" foreign policy mindset in dealing with America's allies and adversaries. Indicating his sincerity in reaching out to the Muslim world, Obama granted his first television interview as president to Dubai-based Al-Arabiya. "My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy," Obama said, adding, "We are offering a hand of friendship." Most significantly, Obama also opened the door to direct dialogue with Iran last month, sending the government and its people a "groundbreaking" "special message" on Nowruz, the start of the Persian New Year, in which he said the U.S. is seeking "engagement" with Iran "that is honest and grounded in mutual respect."

A PROGRESSIVE AGENDA: On Jan. 29, Obama signed his first major piece of legislation, the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, an equal pay law making it easier for workers -- most of whom are women -- to initiate pay discrimination lawsuits. "We are upholding one of this nation's first principles: that we are all created equal and each deserve a chance to pursue our own version of happiness," Obama said at the bill's signing ceremony. Six days later, Obama signed a bill expanding publicly funded health insurance for children, known as SCHIP, legislation Bush had vetoed twice despite strong bipartisan support in Congress. The bill reduces the number of uninsured children by about half over the next four years and will "boost the number covered by the program to 11 million." "In a decent society, there are certain obligations that are not subject to trade offs or negotiation -- health care for our children is one of those obligations," Obama said. And just last week, the President signed a $5.7 billion national service bill championed by Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Orrin Hatch (R-UT) that "triples the size of the AmeriCorps service program over the next eight years and expands ways for students to earn money for college."

THE NEXT 100 DAYS AND BEYOND: Obama and Congress have yet to finalize legislation that would fully accomplish health care reform and solve our climate crisis, but these two major issues remain on the front-burner and have received significant attention in the administration's first 100 days. The economic recovery bill passed earlier this year contained key health care provisions that lead the way toward reform, including $19 billion for health care information technology to implement electronic health records and an agency to "conduct and support research that would assess the benefits of competing treatments," both of which aim to reduce future overall costs. Moreover, Obama's budget creates a "reserve fund" as a down payment to reform the health care system. The stimulus bill also provided a boost to a green economy. In what The New York Times called "the biggest energy bill in history," the Recovery Act provides $91 billion for clean energy investments. In a further indication that addressing climate change is a top priority for the Obama administration, the Environmental Protection Agency confirmed this month that greenhouse gas pollution endangers the health and welfare of the American public. The move finally complies with the Supreme Court's 2007 ruling -- ignored by Bush -- that such emissions should be regulated by the federal government under the Clean Air Act. Obama's budget contains key energy provisions that also aim to limit greenhouse gases and build a clean-energy economy, such as a mandatory cap on carbon emissions which is expected to raise hundreds of billions of dollars over the next ten years that will go toward clean energy development and tax credits for working Americans.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:57 AM
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5. Great. Thanks. Bookmarked.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:58 AM
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6. And yet he chose to risk ALL OF THAT
on health care reform.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:04 AM
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8. So go root for Palin, or Bachmann, or Gingrich. You are ridiculous.
Nothing has been determined yet, and your negativeness is very revealing. Were you waiting for your 'shot'?

I'm not impressed. But keep it up. You make a fool out of you.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:05 AM
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10. You're being ridiculous
Read my sig.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:06 AM
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11. I could care less what your sig says. nt
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:08 AM
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13. Cool, I don't have to look at anything you say
Click
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:05 AM
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9. Same
health care
Iraq
Afganistan
Columbia
drug policy

Change ...
Texas Rangers --> Chicago White Sox
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:08 AM
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12. Your ignorance is showing.
Do tell when idiot son ever wanted to do anything about improving health care for all Americans, for starters.

I'll wait. :eyes:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:20 AM
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14. The boondoggle called the Medicare Drug Bill... meant to "help" seniors...
A giveaway to the drug and insurance companies, and without a public option will be the same bullshit with this :"health care reform".
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:24 AM
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16. That had nothing to do with 'all Americans'. Did he try to get
health care for people who didn't have any?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:26 AM
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17. Without a public option all Americans will not be helped.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:20 AM
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:26 AM
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18. "obushma'? I rest my case, oh ignorant one. nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:04 AM
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26. .
:evilgrin:
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:47 AM
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21. Nice White House webpage cut and paste
I like most of what he's done but almost every Dem on the Hill would have signed on to most of this. No one called him a slacker.

Every politician takes potential primary challenges seriously. You can bet he's thinking about 2012, except he's looking at the GE. Sebelius didn't float dropping the public option on her own; there's been talk about alternatives leaking from the WH for a while.

This is a signature issue; he walks away from this, he has a battle on his left and rightly so. Read Bob Herbert's column in the Times today - it's spot on. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/opinion/18herbert.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

Look, I supported him long before most people - against my own political interest - and I contributed a pretty good chunk of change to his campaign. But some people in the WH need to be reminded who helped bring them to the dance. I'm all for bringing people together but only when you can genuinely find common ground, not when some of the people you bring together are stabbing you in the back.

This is personal - I know what it's like to knock on death's door because you don't have health insurance and you can't pay the doctor or the hospital. I want single payer, but he needed to move right to "a public option" because it is more practical and to get more votes on the Hill. That's acceptable. Are we going to move further right to pass some watered down garbage that pleases the insurance industry but no one else? Sorry, I don't want any further "compromise" so Cigna and Humana and can make more money. That's not change we can believe in.





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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:51 AM
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22. No, sources are a DUer and ThinkProgress.
You want what everyone here wants. But your ultimatum sucks.

And who's walking away? Why are you borrowing trouble? Go after Baucus, Grassley, and pantywaists like the Blue Dogs.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 12:30 PM
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31. It's so funny how these cut and paste lists of accomlishment are almost always bullshit...
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 12:31 PM by Political Heretic
..it doesn't matter what president they are created for.

Bush had a list like this too. No, I'm serious you could make a long list like this of things he did that were "democratic friendly" or whatever. And it too was bullshit.

Here's a few examples:


# Signed executive orders to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, within a year, ban torture and end the CIA’s secret overseas prisons and define treatment of Detainees.

Then turned around and argued for the continuing right to detain prisoners without rights, without trial, and indefinitely - just not at Gitmo. Sort of defeats the point, and not mentioning that along side this "accomplishment." The second part of that statement by the way, is outdated. The administration is no longer advocating for an end to overseas prisons. They've been in court arguing for them, and for the right to indefinite detention.

# Signed an executive order reversing the ban that prohibits funding to international family planning groups that provide abortions. Gag rule revoked (Mexico City policy).

Every administration does this. Reagan Bush put it in place, Clinton reverses it, Bush Jr. puts it back in place, Obama reverses it. It's not much of an accomplishment politically. A real accomplishment would be to have the political courage to make it law instead of executive order.

# Creates the White House Council on Women and Girls "to provide a coordinated federal response to the challenges confronted by women and girls and to ensure that all Cabinet and Cabinet-level agencies consider how their policies and programs impact women and
families."

(A) Here's an example of things in a list simply so that the list will look longer. These are fine things, that are incredibly minor in scope. We elected a president because we were angered by our international aggression an violence in dishonest name of a global war on terror, because we saw the excess of corporate greed and its destruction of the middle class and working class, because we recognized that we desperately need true health care. We did not elect a president to create a White House Concil.

When we are talking about colossal life and death issues like overseas war and health care or economic disaster at home - making a list that includes tiny, administrative actions like this just so that you can pad a list and make it look visually longer is idiotic and childish.

# Created a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners.

Which has totally failed to work.

# Expanded eligibility for the refinancing portion of the Making Home Affordable plan to help Americans struggling with distressed mortgages refinance at lower interest rates, even if they owe up to 25 percent more than their homes are now worth.

This program is also fraught with problems, and was completely mishandled from the getgo. It was a side-project to the Wall Street bailout, when bailing out borrowers should have been the top priority (both for humane reasons and also for strategic economic reasons) and would have been in a society not so completely dominated by corporate interests.

# Established a credit card "bill of rights".

Which has been mostly meaningless.

# Expanded loan programs for small businesses.

Vague.

# Extended and index the 2007 Alternative Minimum Tax patch.

Every president does this.

# Expanded funding to train primary care providers and public health practitioners.

See Point (A)

# Created a new White House task force on the problems of middle-class Americans, and installed Vice President Joe Biden as its chairman.

OOOOO A TASK FORCE! WOOT.

# Appoints Vice President Joe Biden to Oversee Stimulus Plan Payouts.

Um, this is not an "accomplishment." And see point (A) about things listed to PAD A LIST.

# Granted a reprieve to Liberian immigrants facing imminent expulsion.

See point (A)


# Directed military leaders to end war in Iraq.

....so that he could escalate the war in Afghanistan. Not exactly an "accomplishment" in my book. Not exactly what the peace-movement was fighting for, either.

# Allowing Caskets to be photographed when the return from Iraq with family approval.

See point (A)

# Released nine previously secret internal Justice Department memos and opinions defining the legal limits of government power in combating terrorism.

And marched into court and argued for the right of the government to continue its secretive practices, its overseas detentions, and more. Oh, and also said we should all "move forward" and ignore high crimes committed by our government leaders rather than investigate and prosecute those who broke the law and betrayed the spirit of the Constitution.

# On Arab TV Network, Obama Urges Dialogue.

Wow. See point (A)

# Gave a speech in Cairo engaging the Muslim and Arab world.

A speech is now listed as an "accomplishment?"

# Restored funding for the Byrne Justice Assistance Grant (Byrne/JAG) program.

See point (A)

# Released presidential records.

And has denied FOIA requests, went to court to protect its own secrecy, and back peddled on its pledge of openness and transparency. Will not release visitors logs records - a practice started with Bush. Will not disclose information on things like meetings with Wall Street executives on regulator reform, or with Big Pharma on healthcare.

# Required new hires to sign a form affirming their hiring was not due to political affiliation or contributions.

But hires people with clear-cut lobbying ties anyway, despite its initial pledge that it would not do so.

# Pushed for enactment of Matthew Shepard Act, which expands hate crime law to include sexual orientation and other factors.

"Pushed for" is not an accomplishment.

# Invites gay families to the Easter Egg Roll as part of the Obama administration's outreach to diverse communities.

Oh. My. God. This actually got put on a list.... of accomplishments. See point (A)

# Increased funding for the NEA.

See point (A)

# Appointed an assistant to the president for science and technology policy.

See point (A)

# Banned lobbyist gifts to executive employees.

Instead, just hired lobbyists.

# Investment in all types of alternative energy.

This is not only vague, its largely untrue.

# Enacted tax credit for consumers for plug-in hybrid cars.

See point (A) - Also, we are not going to prevent a climate change disaster by giving consumers a tax credit. We are going to address climate change by forcing corporate industry to curtail polluting.

# Support for high-speed rail.

See point (A)

# Provided grants to encourage energy-efficient building codes.

See point (A)

# Created the White House Council on Automotive Communities and Workers to help auto industry workers transition to new manufacturing opportunities, including jobs in alternative energy.

Yay! He created a council!

# Stopped raids on medical marijuana dispensers.

See point (A)

# Nominated Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court of the United States. If confirmed, Sotomayor would be the first Hispanic to ever serve on the Supreme Court.

She also happens to be a completely benign pick, maintaining the same basic corporate mainstream judicial philosophy posing no thread to the interests of the ruling elite. But yay, she's hispanic!

# Appointed more than 60 openly LGBT persons to positions in the executive branch.

This isn't an "accomplishment" - its normal.

# Issues Presidential Proclamation for Pride, proclaiming June 2009 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month.

We are calling meaningless Proclamations accomplishments now?

# Signed a mercury reduction pact with 140 other nations.

Boy, thank god I voted for him! I was concerned about our endless wars, our imperialistic agression around the world, our plunder capitalism driving our economy into the ground at home, the destruction of organized labor and the shrinking middle class, our failing health care and global climate crisis... but thank god that mercury problem got addressed!

# Cut funding for a proposed U.S. nuclear storage facility at Yucca Mountain.

See point (A)

# Orders The Chesapeake Bay Protection and Restoration "to protect and restore the health, heritage, natural resources, and social and economic value of the Nation's largest estuarine ecosystem and the natural sustainability of its watershed."

See point (A)

# Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act which will expedite the search for cures and treatments for millions of Americans living with paralysis caused by spinal cord injury, stroke, MS, Parkinson's and many other diseases and disorders.

See point (A)

# Established The Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record, a new system for updating medical records of servicemen and women both during and after their military careers.

See point (A)

# Established the White House Office of Health Reform

It's really doing wonders too.

# Created new and stronger safety standards to safeguard the country's food supply.

See point (A)
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 12:45 PM
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33. Were this an OP I would rec it.
Obama needs to start dancing with the ones that brung him.
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joshdawg Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:55 AM
Original message
public option
Option No.1---Medicare style public option.
Option No.2---See Option No. 1
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:55 AM
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3. Good call.
I guess he'll just march up to the Hill, write that bill, push it through committee, pass it, and sign. Just for you.

We all want the public option. Your OP is an exercise in silly, pointless bluster.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:01 AM
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24. Not for me
For his own good and the good of the country.



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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:24 AM
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28. A little catharsis is good for the soul.
... but not much else.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:56 AM
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4. Tony Weiner is right there in NEw York
And he knows how to make the case for single payer, let alone futz around with a public option.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:04 AM
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7. Interesting factoid from Wikipedia:
Weiner was roommates with the Comedy Central program The Daily Show host Jon Stewart after college, and the sole documented recipient of political campaign contributions from the comedian.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:03 AM
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25. I'm not a big Weiner fan
But he is doing a great job on this issue.
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Boomerang Diddle Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:27 AM
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19. You're on a first name basis with him?
My! Somebody has a high opinion of himself!
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 10:58 AM
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23. It's his name isn't it?
I'll leave the insult be.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:05 AM
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27. You're under the impression that 'we' "elect" puppet presidents in this oligarchy?
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:58 AM
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29. You don't have the votes
to get rid of PRESIDENT OBAMA in the 2012 primary, thankfully.
But the moderates could have the votes to get rid of him.
Ignore ALL he is doing because of one thing? No thanks.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:59 AM
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30. He's bought and paid for. That'll never happen.
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