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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:41 AM
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Yes, I am willing to make the sacrifice.
I have been active in the Democratic Part for over 20 years now and have worked in every election since I got out of high school. Over the past few days I asked myself if I am will to sacrifice our majorities in Congress in 2010 if that is what it took to get strong health care reform with a public option and the answer is YES. I will gladly lay down my party to seize this once in a generation opportunity,
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:47 AM
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1. Agree. What good is electing Dems, and giving them large majorities, if they govern
like the pukes?

The saddest words are "what might have been."
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:05 AM
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2. k&r
:thumbsup:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 10:27 AM
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3. I think there's very little chance that we will lose Congress in 2010.
The political climate is really very different now than it was in 1994. In 1994, the Republican Party's approval ratings were not in the toilet. The ghost of Ronald Reagan was much more powerful then. Whereas Clinton followed Bush I, Obama follows one of the least popular politicians in American history, Bush II. Clinton was elected with less than 50% of the popular vote. Obama was elected with well over 50% of the popular vote. The religious right had not completely taken over the Republican Party then. Now, Republican politicians are generally insane, reflecting their rabid base.

I think Obama blew his first chance at health care reform by pushing for a weak plan. I think he should table the idea, for now, and push for single payer in 2011. The current system is unsustainable, and everyone knows it. Change will come. Let's not settle for a bailout of the insurance industry. Let's insist on the eradication of it.

I expect the Democratic Party will pick up 3 seats in the Senate and between 3-6 seats in the House UNLESS Congress passes a disastrous "insurance reform" bill. At this point, I would rather do nothing than to pass any of the bills under consideration in Congress.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 05:33 AM
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4. wake up
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 06:33 AM
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5. Great read
TY
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:09 PM
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6. Yawn.
If that's all you've got, I think I'd rather go back to sleep.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 06:20 PM
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9. keep your head in the sand
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:04 PM
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11. Come on. At least give me some idea where you're going with this.
A bare link to a poorly-written essay, and I honestly have no idea what alleged truth you think I am oblivious to.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:12 PM
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13. I'm smelling the coffee n/t
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:12 PM
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7. a mandate to buy private insurance with no public option will give the repugs the keys to congress.
but i definitely think hope that obama is smarter than that.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:08 PM
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12. I agree with you about pushing for single payer...but
let's do it now, not in 2011.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:09 AM
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14. I agreed with your position for about two hours yesterday. LOL.
The NYT essay that suggested Democrats were ready to abandon bipartisanship got me really excited. I was ready to push for single-payer then. Of course, within hours the White House was back on it's bipartisanship shtick, and I lost my hope that we could get it done now.

If, and when, the Democratic Party decides to go it alone and stop kissing Republican butt, then I say the time is right to push for single-payer. Of course, in all the letters to politicians that I have written on this subject I have expressed my preference for a single-payer system, but I did so knowing that it was not a realistic possibility because it was "off the table." If the Democrats decide to go it alone, I will feel the need to make sure single-payer is "on the table." That's when I think we'll have the best chance to get real "health care" reform and not just a bailout of the health insurance industry.

:dem:

-Laelth
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:15 PM
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8. I'm not sure i see the logic here
While I agree that this hasn't been a very inspiring performance (quite the opposite) it is certainly better than we would get with Republicans running the house and the senate. There's a difference between chumps halfheartedly trying to do the right thing and bastards working as hard as they can to do the wrong thing.

Bryant
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 06:24 PM
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10. You're right. There comes a point when the party has to do what it was created to do.
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