Ant-Semitic protester screams "hiel Hitler" to Isreali praising national health care in Vegas

Just sickening.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/18/hitler-israel/

Conservatives have strenuously denied that there is any anti-Semitism on display by anti-health reform protesters at town hall meetings nationwide — despite all the evidence to the contrary. Last week, Las Vegas radio station KDWN AM720 sponsored a “contentious” town hall, emceed by conservative morning show host Heidi Harris. At the event, local news stations were interviewing an Israeli man who was praising the “fantastic” “national health care” in Israel. During his remarks, a woman yelled out, “Heil Hitler!” The man stopped, became visibly upset, and exclaimed, “Did you hear this? She say to a Jew, ‘Heil Hitler’! Hear? I’m a Jew! You’re telling me, ‘Heil Hitler’? Shame of you!” After he angrily confronts her, the woman mocks him by making a crying sound to imply he is a whining baby.
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and they go scuttling for the dark places.

And here is the psychotic asshole's Facebook page.

Have fun, all.

Everyone who disagrees with them is Hitler, even Jews.

anyone and anything to be more obsessed with Hitler than the History Channel, but I do believe you're right on this one. How frightening, disgusting, despicable, hateful, dismaying, etc., etc., etc.

How Dare She ?

Ugh

gODDAMN THAT'S a SICK WOMAN.

Except it's not going to be just Jews, and Gypsy's, they want anyone with a brain that actually works out of their way.

things are getting c r a z y

She's an anti-semite.

We need to keep the lights on the cock roaches....

but I never expected an anti-semitic bigot would scream "Heil Hitler" at a Jew over health care.

We need to make sure to continue to link the Repuglican party with these violent people...it's just a matter of time before violence breaks out.

They're fucking lynching congressmen in effigy. I can't say that this surprises me at all.

And a swift kick in the festering, rancid crotch.

They have no understanding of history and life to them is totally black an white.

I got involved in an argument with one of them on the Independent article about mobile clinic at the La Forum:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-brutal-truth-about-americarsquos-healthcare-1772580.html

The basis of his/her argument was "You goddam Limeys should be grateful we liberated London from the goddam Nazis". When I pointed out that Britain was never invaded by the Nazis he/she accused me of "hair splitting over the difference between invading and bombing the cr*p out of somewhere". How can you fight ignorance and spite like that?

These people need help. They can't be happy, and they'd die for their corporate masters. It's almost medieval.

Moron, but anymore info on the system in Israel? All I've heard is the bashing of the UK and Canada

I know nothing about the system in Isreal, but the system in the UK, in spite of 18 years of the bloody Tories between 1979 and 1997 - and they would have privatised it in a second if they could have -, the NHS works for everyone and 95% of Brits would take to the barricades to protect it.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?NHS_supporters_crash_Twitter&in_article_id=719001&in_page_id=34

Don't believe the Tories (and especially Daniel Hannan) any more than you'd believe the Republicans.

Health care in Israel is both universal and compulsory, and is administered by a small number of organizations with funding from the government. All Israeli citizens are entitled to the same Uniform Benefits Package, regardless of which organization they are a member of, and treatment under this package is funded for all citizens regardless of their financial means. According to a 2000 study by the World Health Organization, Israel has the 28th best health care in the world.<1>

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Israel

Keep in mind they had just fought a war where a huge number of people died and most of the new arrivals lived in tents.

But of course we great powerful american can't afford it now. :Sarcasm:

but isn't that ignorant woman wearing an IDF t-shirt?

The other thread is here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6339478&mesg_id=6339478

A random woman mocking another who has a son serving in Iraq (Fahrenheit 9/11).

A woman using Hitler to mock a Jewish man.

Not coincidence. These things don't happen in a vacuum.

Vile, vile people.

there really are some good women. I know several.

:shrug:

You said women were vile people. I disagree.

I pointed out three examples of three VERY VILE women. Please show me where I said all women were vile! Or that women in general are vile people! Oh that's right...I DIDN'T! Are you SERIOUS?

*shaking head*

:crazy:

"A WOMAN wearing a purple heart bandaid to mock a purple heart veteran.
A random WOMAN mocking another who has a son serving in Iraq (Fahrenheit 9/11).

A WOMAN using Hitler to mock a Jewish man.

Not coincidence. These things don't happen in a vacuum.

Vile, vile people"

The only class of people you mentioned were women. You said nothing about RWers, conservatives, Republicans or circus clowns. No mention of who the vile people are. Nothing. I came to the only conclusion possible with what you wrote.

So, if you're a woman, why the self loathing!

I'm only going to say this once, because I don't like to waste time with deliberately obtuse people spoiling for a fight.

This 'Nazi' WOMAN'S behavior reminded me *specifically* of other conservative WOMEN who *specifically* went out of their way to be rude and obnoxious to other people in public and on camera. WOMEN who were PROMINENTLY in the media spotlight for their behavior. I'm drawing parallels with WOMEN and equating the behavior of one WOMAN with other WOMEN. There's plenty of examples. Want me to come up with some more? I can:

*Harriet Christian
*The woman at the Palin rally who declared "The black will take over"
*The crazy woman at the McCain town hall who said Obama was an "Arab"
*The woman who got schooled by Barney Frank

What else do they have in common, BESIDES the fact that they're WOMEN? They're CONSERVATIVE and OBNOXIOUS. Which brings me to another point:

EQUALITY means recognizing that given a platform and opportunity, WOMEN can be EVERY BIT as racist, obnoxious and vile as men. Sad but true: The "Angry White Male" is not limited to men. Not my problem if you aren't able (or willing?) to understand what I meant, or if you're willing to accuse me of self-loathing because I have the NERVE to point out WOMEN (and didn't provide any examples of men! The horror!). Does that mean conservative men aren't guilty of the same thing? No. But WHO, exactly, was yelling at this poor Jewish man? Sorry, but I don't cut conservative women slack because we happen to share the same plumbing. Others on this thread seem to "get" what I was saying.

What you *SHOULD* be taking issue with is how conservative women are all too willing to engage in this evil behavior....willing to malign others and make fools of themselves in an effort to support a political party that consistently and continually goes against their best interests.

If you STILL can't (or refuse to) get what I meant after this detailed explanation, I can't help you. You'll respectfully need to find someone else to have a semantic spat with, because I'm done. And you're on ignore.

A vile conservative is a vile conservative regardless of gender. I've never heard anyone imply that idiocy is unique to men. You're post 17, (unintentionally, I'm sure) implied that it was unique to women. Go back and read it carefully. Can you honestly not see how someone might misinterpret what you wrote?

"What else do they have in common, BESIDES the fact that they're WOMEN? They're CONSERVATIVE and OBNOXIOUS." But you didn't say this in your post 17. It was only implied. And then only implied within the contest of the thread; not the post itself.


I was simply making a joke over a poorly written post (17). I'm surprised you weren't able to figure that out (talk about obtuse!).

I think you win the no humor award for the week. Congratulations.

to the woman mentioned who showed her racism, the one mocking a purple heart veteran and the one with a son serving in Iraq.

Anyone with reading comprehension should have been able to tell that I was making a joke. Post 17 was written clumsily. That's all.

Than your little joke was written clumsily since there was no indication that it was written with tongue in cheek.

A woman wearing a purple heart band aid to mock a purple heart veteran.

A random woman mocking another who has a son serving in Iraq (Fahrenheit 9/11).

A woman using Hitler to mock a Jewish man.

Not coincidence. These things don't happen in a vacuum.

Vile, vile people.

Which can easily be read as:

A WOMAN wearing blah blah blah
A random WOMAN---blah blah blah
A woman---blah blah blah

Not coincidence. These things don't happen in a vacuum.
vile, vile people.

I replied (in defense of women):
No... there really are some good women. I know several.


Yes, I admit I purposefully gave an easy misinterpretation of post 17 to enable a joke. Why did I do this? Because there really was NO reason to introduce gender here (and, I like to crack jokes). Both men and woman are capable of being idiots. There is no reason to just blame woman as your friend (unintentionally) did in post 17.

And now that you just came in second for the no humor award for the week, I strongly recommend that you (and your friend) go watch several hours of the Marx Brothers (Only the Paramounts. Don't bother with the MGM's or later.) Watch or read some of Shakespeare's comedies (Watching preferable but not always an option) and Read some Noel Coward.
I should also add Chaplin's "The Great Dictator" to illustrate that ANYTHING can use a little humor.


BTW-- I'm a guy.

implying something about *all* women.

The *joke* on other hand, was not obvious. And the fact that you continue to make the accusation that you claim was made jokingly pretty well proves the point.

he encountered in my country.

of $8000 for two hours of care.

If you didn't notice (or didn't watch the video), the "Heil Hitler!" woman was wearing an Israel Defense Force t-shirt, and explained to the Israeli gentleman that "you should be the most against Obama", ostensibly I suppose because of the RW clap-trap about him being "bad for Israel". Allow me to reiterate how unimpressed I am when right-wing evangelicals say how much they love Israel. I'm assuming no Jew would give the Nazi salute to another Jew, of course.

Of their millenialist beliefs. The jews are all supposed to convert anyways, so it isn't out of respect for them. If you read the fine print, all the millenialists want to do is blow up the place in their own particular way. So Jesus will come back. Oy vey.

If I were a jew, I'd be running, not walking away from them.

Hadn't seen it yet. Thank you.

not Hitler. The Hitler shit was just to get on camera. Doesn't make it any better, of course.

If this woman were in certain European countries she'd be in jail right now.

That dude was a jerk who didn't have two neurons to rub together anyway.

BTW how do you like all this rain? Man if this translates to snow in the winter we are going to be buried for months! :toast:

Where it's currently wicket hot.

ago!). One of the three math teachers was Jewish. I remember once during sophomore year a couple of classmates didn't like how "tough" she was being (IOW, actually making them do work, how dare she!) and, thus, drew swastikas in their math notebooks that we all had to turn in each week. She was visibly upset upon seeing them, as you can imagine, and the neanderthals responsible thought that was just hilarious. No shame at all with them, in fact, they bragged about it.

They didn't brag so much, however, after the headmaster and the school got through with them. Their parents complained, but tough shit. Their little darlings needed quite a history lesson and they got it, courtesy of a weekend with the history and social studies departments.

It's moments like these that remind me, and reinforce my belief that those of us who are levelheaded (right/left/centrist, whatever)
must keep our heads straight in this...debate, or things will never be the same. What I fear, is not the alleged government take over, or the alleged health care crisis...it's...this...(seemingly) pseudo anarchic battle, so to speak, that has erupted. People are forgetting themselves and what makes our nation great.

What has this country become lately?

~R

:puke:

it takes a lot for me to be shocked. a lot. yeah, i am shocked.
what a frigging idiot she is. this should go viral.

Just look at her slack-jawed face after he confronts her about screaming "Heil Hitler" to a Jew. It's like it just occurred to her what she was actually saying. She had no defense of her statement but to scream something about Obama and resort to childish mocking. That is the modern Republican party though. Actual meaning has no bearing on their discourse. "Heil Hitler" means nothing, "Death Panel" means nothing, "Socialism", "Fascism", "totalitarianism", etc. all mean nothing. They are just convenient words and phrases meant to scare and unite a foolish and angry base.

Apparently the Reich-wingers have been given a green light to let all their crassness and lowest of instincts get out.

People, this is what we are up against. They are crazy and they are nasty.

If so, I hope the bitch is ready for her close up.

The beeotch is despicable:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/18/hitler-israel

- the woman is wearing an IDF shirt: Israel Defense Force shirt:



- has christian cross earings

- and was telling the Israeli man that he should be the most afraid of Obama. The whole Obama hates Israel nonsense.

My conclusion: she is a RW Evangelical who watches Glenn Beck

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My great grandfather had the tattoo, his concentration camp number. When I was a boy I thought that that all happened so long ago, now 60 years doesn't seem like all that much and the display this woman put on was sickening. Another brainless fuck with nothing in her but hate and anger. A big K&R this needs to be viral.

"...What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator. ..."

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8

These right wing nuts might be telling Uncle Adolph, "don't worry, Mr. Hitler. You're not Hitler. Obama is Hitler."

That would be hilarious if it weren't so incredibly true. The republican party is so incredibly good at projection, I'm amazed that they're able to live with themselves. You'd think that a person would reach a level of cognitive dissonance where their body would just stop functioning after a while. But these idiots somehow manage to persist like the mindless automatons they are. These people are sick, sick fucks.

She is a member of the religious right and of the Israel defense force. The reason why she yelled "heil hitler" is because the speaker was speaking in support of Obama. Like Joe the Plumber she believes Obama is "bad for israel" and will "cause the death of israel" and also she buys into the
Limbaugh and Glen Beck meme of "Obama being Hitler". She is mocking the speaker, by suggesting that he is being supportive of Hitler-style politics.

This woman genuinely believes that jews are the chosen people and should own all of israel.
These are the type of people who donate money to settlements in the West Bank. Right-wing israelis normally have no trouble accepting those donations.

This "woman" is a fucking idiot who is so ideologically driven that she has no fucking idea what she is. She has no thoughts that are her own, she has no feeling and no remorse. If she were any kind of human being she would have apologized. Instead she started her little rant and her "crybaby" mantra. This "woman" has probably never been out of the United States, she likely has no idea about anything in the Palestine/Israel debate except that her "Preacher" told her that if the Jews didn't hold Israel there wouldn't be a Rapture and a Second Coming. Defending her is doing nothing but approving of her.

Wanting the Jews to keep Israel so the Christians can have their little rapture isn't pro-Israel, it's anti intelligent.


Oh and welcome to DU.

Edit: oh and if you get a chance to talk to her ask her if all Jews are going to hell because they didn't accept Jesus as their personal savior. :rofl: :rofl:

I know a lot of people on that end of the spectrum and I don't think that analysis is totally wrong. I'd say at least half of it is probably right, maybe more.

hammering the guy worse. She had a chance, there was an opening where you could see those tiny gears turning in her head, and instead of coming up 3 7's they came up skulls and she basically called the guy a crybaby because of an 8000 dollar hospital visit.

Like I said in an earlier post, in Europe they don't play that shit. They had the Nazi's in their backyard, not overseas and in many European countries she would have been arrested for offering up the Nazi salute. It's much easier to forget the true horror of the holocaust when the reminders aren't right in your backyard.

I'll say it one more time, she had a moment where she realized what she did, you can see it in the video, she had a chance to redeem herself and blew it off for her ideology. She gets no slack from me.

Israel in hopes the Rapture becomes a reality. They don't give a hoot about Jews and most likely many are racist who believe the so-called white race is dominant in the eyes of their god; I think this woman proved that by using Hitler to make a warped point. Underneath their claims of piety they have a tremendous ability to hate. Of course they believe that anyone not exclusively believing in their brand of Christianity is going to hell. That means all other non-Christian religions and of course the Catholic church. I have heard many a Bible thumper claim that Catholics are not Christians. Power and religion corrupts.

As for your other excuses in her defense... Are you a mind reader or something?

They support their idea of what Israel is because of their wacky, un-Scriptural End Times theology: they believe Israel needs to exist because the battle of Armageddon needs to happen there, in a certain cultishly specific chain of events. They also believe that all the Jews will either convert to Christianity or be killed, and they're looking forward to this. :puke:

So they will always take Israel's side over Palestine, no matter what.

that Israel exist in order for the rapture to occur. At which point, of course, in that belief, the Jews will be given a choice to convert or be destroyed.

That's not support, and really shouldn't be confused for it.

we're chosen for is to keep the land of Israel warm for the evangelicals until the second coming when all the Jews would get destroyed because they wont turn to Jesus. Don't try and tell me she's not a anti-semite - those fundies are the worst because they try and couch it.

:kick:

no one wants to listen to them anymore

finds out what it is. I would love to see Tweety interview her!

What a selfish cow. Totally inappropriate. When you resort to those kind of tactics, you really have nothing to bring to the table.

:kick:

even knowing that is their true aim, it is very very hard for me to look past such sick people who are so easily led to hate............