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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:15 PM
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Unions Warn Dems: We'll Sit Out Election If You Oppose Public Option
“One of the country's most prominent union officials is warning that big labor may pull its support from Democrats who don't fight for a government-run insurance plan.

In an interview with the Huffington Post on Saturday, Richard Trumka, the secretary-treasurer and likely next president of the AFL-CIO, said his federation is drawing a line in the sand when it comes to a public option in the health care bill. Lawmakers who don't support the provision, he said, shouldn't take anything for granted.

"We'll look at every one of their votes," Trumka said after his speech at the Netroots Nation convention. "If they're against the Employee Free Choice Act, if they're against health care for that reason, I think it'll be tough for them to get support from working people."

Trumka's remarks were echoed privately by several other labor officials at the convention in Pittsburgh. In particular, the emerging Senate Finance Committee plan - which seems unlikely to contain a public option and could end up taxing pricey health care packages - seems almost guaranteed to incite the unions.” Cont…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/labor-warns-dems-well-sit_n_262232.html
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:16 PM
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1. Who could blame them?
"Democrats" who do not support Democratic values are not worthy of support.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:19 PM
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5. Those "Democrats" need to be voted out. That's right
the Union and the rest of us can pick candidates that will do the bidding of the American public not corporations.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:25 PM
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8. We Had A Conversation About This With Friends The Other Night
How the dems play their base because they figure we have no other option, no where else to go. Even when we had to hold our noses we voted dem rather than the alternative. Mark my words, they're counting on that.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:10 PM
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24. Will that be shortly before or just after hell freezes over? Possibly the emptiest threat ever.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:36 PM
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34. Primaries are not an empty threat
If a dem in a competitive district has to worry that unions will try to primary them from the left, and then have to worry they will not get union support in the general, it could be a major threat.

Specter's voting took a massive turn to the right when he was polling below Toomey in the GOP primary. He voted with the dems about 14% of the time. Then when he switched to D he voted dem about 60%. Once Sestak started primarying him from the left he started voting dem about 90% of the time.


So a primary against someone from the left works. If unions and liberals (two of the biggest financial, voter and volunteer sources the dems have) devote their efforts to primaries instead of general elections, it would win the attention of the dem party.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:41 PM
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37. Unions rule.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:03 PM
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40. They represent us, our interest
Even if we don't belong to their particular union, they are ion our side--the people who create such great wealth for the top 1%.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:17 PM
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2. Those officials need to pay attention.
There's a lot of angry Dems out there, and we vote.

We also remember.

:grr:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:30 PM
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I've already informed Gillibrand that I won't vote for her.
I won't vote Republican but I won't vote for a candidate who never went thru a primary. If she thinks she can make it without my vote, then it doesn't matter that she disenfranchised me. But maybe it does matter.

I don't see why the same tactic can't be applied here.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:17 PM
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3. As they should
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:18 PM
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4. Good, though I'd prefer they direct their wrath to the Blue Dogs
who are responsible for trying to kill it.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:32 PM
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16. But the problem with that is that most of the Blue Cross Dems are
in states where union membership is considered verboten.

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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:14 PM
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26. And the unions have good payback in the house bill.
It's called the reinsurance program for retirees.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:19 PM
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6. Hooray for Organized Labor!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:23 PM
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7. "...MAY ..."!!!! It should be "..WILL pull support..."!!!
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:26 PM
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9. Opening Salvo?
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:41 PM
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18. I think I'm just tired of wishy-washiness from all parties. Careful wording so they
can backtrack at their convenience. Sort of like Larry Craig's "I intend to. . . ", I'm just sick of it. Take stand and then stand there, !!! gawd darnit!
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:47 PM
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19. Calibrations & Calculations
I hear you
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:27 PM
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10. Good. Democrats need to stop listening to the Republican base.
Try listening to the Democratic base instead. We won the election, remember?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:32 PM
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15. More From The Article
"Former DNC Chair, Howard Dean, likewise predicted that Democrats who vote against the public option would have to deal with a primary challenge.

Meanwhile, a group of progressive members of the House of Representatives made it clear on Monday that they will not support a health care bill that doesn't include a government run option for insurance coverage."
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:28 PM
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11. Good! n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:29 PM
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12. Well I hate to say it, but a certain person might have been right
and individuals, and now organized labor, have had it.

And yes, we know some folks here hate that certain person, but when 70% wants reform and we can only muster 41 votes in the Senate with a supermajority... we have a problem... a serious problem.

Translation, this is no longer a democracy... in any shape, way or form.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:30 PM
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13. Good. n/t
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:30 PM
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14. Hell yeah. K&R
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:34 PM
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17. kick
Good job, brothers and sisters.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:05 PM
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20. YESSS!! Great union support, and in return everyone should support the Employee Free Choice ACT.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:06 PM
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21. good for them!!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:08 PM
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22. Politics is a rough game. Time for the right people to get tough.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:10 PM
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23. Yay, they have Pres Obama's back
again..this is what he wants. The facts to get out and the pressure!
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:13 PM
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25. Hey Trumka -- Can you and Dean
come up with someone to challenge Feinstein in the 2012 primary?

Labor + DFA ought to seal it.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:15 PM
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27. That's gonna leave a mark.
OUCH!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:18 PM
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28. bvar22 warns The Dems...
No STRONG Public Option,
No support from me,
and I'm taking as many with me as possible.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:08 PM
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41. The DLCNewThirdBlueWayDogs think they can win without actual Democrats voting
for them. The People are too much trouble with their whining and demanding and wanting to live and be paid and all, Corporations are the ones that make them rich...
:eyes:


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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:18 PM
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29. BRAVO!!!!!! (nt)
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:26 PM
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30. Cheers to our Labor Unions! The workers only real voice. (What's left of them)
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 04:27 PM by GreenTea
Reagan started busting up the unions and the republicans and corporations have been hacking away and destroying the unions numbers ever since.

Employee Free Choice Act: What is the Employee Free Choice Act?
http://www.aflcio.org/joinaunion/voiceatwork/efca/whatis.cfm
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:29 PM
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31. I know I won't be volunteering my time or $ w/o a public option. Good for the unions!
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:39 PM
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35. I will, but I will devote it to real progressives in primaries and general elections
I'm not giving anything to the DNC or DSCC like I did in the 2008 cycle. Everything I give (assuming I am employed by then) will go to primaries from the left or dems in competitive districts who support progressive causes.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:23 PM
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38. Is Grovel-Bot For The Public Option?
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:31 PM
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33. I am with them.
I will not vote for any anti-public option candidate.

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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:39 PM
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36. Kick this one
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:57 PM
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39. And count a few million angry DEMs right along with them...
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:31 PM
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42. Great but I will be distressed if the Repubs gain more power.
The answer is to vote them all out!!!!!!!!! The answer is to fight for this Country and it's people.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:36 PM
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43. It's about God damned time!
The unions should have done this long ago. It is time for the Democrats to choose who they are going to represent...

The People who put them where they are or Corporate America.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 10:40 PM
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44. Dance With The One That Brought You
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