So I called my WHOLE delegation, as I usually do EVERY WEEK, and

put it plainly to them.

There is no STRONG PO, I will NOT work for them, I will not vote for them.

One of the people answering the phone sounded shocked.

Ok so that was me.

I wonder now that the Unions are joining up in this if they will realize that there is a limit to what they can do.

I don't count on it. and I expect to NOT vote, not give money, and not work for any democrat (yes they are dems) any time soon. For that matter for any republican either.

I did tell them, what do you guys need to pass this a super-duper incredible majority?

I am sure that this is a shock. Yes, some of us are fed enough to seat out the election... period.

And don't whine up with the what if the Republicans win? So... what if they win? They lose, they win, the corporations are the true winners. It does not matter who has the majority at the moment...

Now let me see what does this remind me off? That particular definition...

The central core of corporatism is the notion of a system of interest intermediation linking producer interests and the state, in which explicitly recognized interest organizations are incorporated into the policy-making process, both in terms of the negotiation of policy and of securing compliance from their members with the agreed policy.

http://www.answers.com/topic/corporatism

Enjoy the illusion...

When you think of it that way, remind me why I'm supposed to be afraid of allowing Dems to lose?

:shrug:

it is about us and them.

And that is very radical thinking in the US, mind you.

I keep saying there's some numbers the privileged class need to remember
1789, 1848 and 1917.

to be soon joined by the other side.

Not something I look forwards to, but it just may.

It would be handled well before this, but national strikes and demonstrations are way too radical for some.

Corporate interests are controling the debate. Health-care corporations, and any corporation that sees any hint that the government might in some way move to control them are moving heaven and earth to maintain the status quo.

GOP representatives have been funded by Corporate interests. The same interests fund the Democratic Party.

We need to get past this idea that the GOP are somehow puppet masters with their hands up the backsides of the media moving the media's lips with their crap covered fingers.

contributions to their opponents.

that I knew was saying the same thing. I said that they may think that they need the health care industry's money to get reelected, but they also needed us to make phone calls, knock on doors, GOTV, etc. I said if there was no public option, I would be sitting out on future elections until the party decided to start representing US.

sadly they cannot even make the argument that this is a representative democracy. Does not pass the smell taste.

You just have to ask who is being represented.

we have another name... fascism.

And that is what I now believe we confront.

get their attention? There would have to be enough in a short period for the M$M to start chattering about it - but it might put some weight behind what we're saying about not supporting those who are abandoning us.

I am thinking of going Green in this hope. That is that they will realize there is a problem since parties do track those numbers.

But then there are the open primaries that stop me.

or prey to the system. I don't even think most of them are any more independent. They just chose a different label.

I mean, most of them voted for a series of ideas and are getting none of them fulfilled. We voted for peace, and the war is just moving to a different chanel, Afghanistan. We voted because Obama would bring a more honest and open administration. It is opaque. We voted for someone to fix the economy, and we are being told it is getting better but seeing none of the results of better.

Politicians use words, catch phrases, and images that appeal to us, deliver almost nothing, and blame it on the other guy.

you have such an inflated opinion of yourself. It's quite amusing. you're in love with your outrage to an absurd degree. I didn't unrec your first meaningless little tirade. Repetition is such a bore. Happily unrecommended, dear.