Has anyone suggested "2nd Amendment zones" for protestors?

Like the fenced-in "1st Amendment zones" during the bush years, they could be placed there a couple of blocks from the event.

i never heard that before.

It's not like this has anything to do with actual gun-rights issues. Obama has actually been more friendly to gun owners than Bush was in some ways. It's just attention whoring.

It's hijacking whatever event is going on for their attention whoring on gun rights..

Or in this case it was trying to get governor/presidential nominee Bush to let a guy off death row before he was executed.

I believe it's illegal to open carry a pistol in Texas, so a rifle or shotgun would be the norm for that kind of thing.

Here's one from 2000 right after he went under secret service protection.

Texas state republican convention, 2000.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=Gdnz8z2GaG

and from Bush-friendly Faux, and they made sure that it was widely known: "Black Panthers" (corrected later to "an offshoot of the Black Panthers"; but hey, the Holocaust Museum shooter was a "lone wolf", despite his RW tendencies and followings) ... I saw that the "counter-protest" appeared to be two white guys talking ... and somebody walking away with a sign ...

And these guys at town halls with guns are likely from some offshoot of some kind of organization...

Whackos one and all, but they aren't breaking any laws.

I'm sure there are more instances of open carry to republican events, or any events.

(remember ... blacks with guns ... SCARY!) at this same point in Bush's pResidency ... especially since, at this point, Bush had the PDB mentioning Osama bin Laden readying attacks on the U.S. ...

Looks like they were right outside the convention center to me.

People with guns aren't something that scares some Texans... My high school parking lot had em in half the pickup trucks back windows for example.

If I see a guy walking with a gun my first thought is not that he's a danger... Unless he's pointing it at people and acting dangerously.

Now, if the clip was from the summer of 2001, that would be a whole different story.

his events.

they were forced into... what did they call it? oh right. " 1st amendment zones."

the same if it happened when * was pRez--but this didn't.

Mr. TX fails.

It's an open carry protest aimed at Bush, while he was under SS protection.

Is it the only one? I dunno..

Whackos come in all flavors though, and open carry laws or lack of law is what it is...

There are groups out there that intend to remind people open carry is legal by doing so at all times though, the more visible the better in there eyes. They tend to be the Ron Paul libertarian types that believe government should not step outside strict literal constitutional limits..

They seem to have gotten what they were after, growing the public knowledge that it is in fact legal in a lot if not most places. They may find out though that it might have been better not to poke that sleeping dog.

It was against the Death Penalty ... well, if you believe Fox ...

Link or be instanteously debunked.

You claimed ti, the burden of proof is YOURS!

so, you know it's not "biased" :sarcasm:

not when Bush was pResident, in 2001 ...

to be just like bush!:eyes:

what would the nra do? They'd go nuts. is the 2d amendment more important than the 1st?

more exposure to bush's thuggery.

And locked gates. ;-)

And, perhaps, mental health treatment available.

:toast:

security perimeter a few blocks away.
I fail to see what this "2A Zone" would accomplish...

People with a voice were already outside the Bush's security perimeter a few blocks away. I failed to see what his "1A Zones" accomplished...

you fail to see what bush's 1A-zone policy accomplished for which people constantly slammed him for and then you go cry that obama should do the exact same thing in regard to the 2A...

BRILLIANT!!! :eyes:

I didn't say (cry, as you melodramatically put it) Obama should do the same thing... :shrug:

I made an observation rather than a judgment. Context is brilliant too

as was done in the previouse administration, is this "change we can believe in" or more like "same game, different names?"

It's not like they are wearing a persnickety T-shirt or holding a snarky sign they are carrying a weapon and even if they have no intention of using it the Secret Service has to waste a pair of eyes baby sitting them as they stand in the general population, they dilute the available security thus posing a real risk and quite frankly if I have to take off my fucking shoes to get on a plane they can stand in an area for people wishing to carry weapons.

with you.

The ones that should cause concern are the ones that can't be seen (book depository), or the ones who have weapons that can't be seen.

How many pairs of secret service eyes are in that detail? We don't know, but I betcha it's a bunch.

One of them will do something stupid and give them the excuse that they need to deflect any bad PR

you get a grip

Which is why it will never happen.

Put these guys about 4 miles from the president, in a large, fenced area.

And we shouldn't suggest he act like him.

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