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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:10 AM Original message |
Is it technically possible to recover "deleted" emails from computers? |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, there is. Of course there is. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes. The FBI has all the tools to recover practically anything. (nt) |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Send them to the White House, posthaste! nt |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. If so, Wow. How stupid. What were these crooks in the WH thinking? |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. not if the email files have been physically overwritten with 0s and 1s |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. A simple overwrite won't do it. |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yes, my understanding is that everything is still on the hard drive somehow. |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Not true |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Very interesting, thanks! |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. Yes, actually ... |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Unless they reformat the drive.... |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. If they did, then I think we have a crime ... |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. They don't have to reformat it. There are plenty of tools to overwrite the data |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Wouldn't it look awfully suspicious? |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I'm not sure what crime it would be ... |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Secure erase software is cheap and legal |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Rove was under investigation back in 2005 over the Plame affair. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. Unformat..... checkit. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
7. Think about what happens when you send an email. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. You can get them off your own computer even w/o all the network stuff |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Hard to believe all those computers have been reformatted... |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 07:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. "...all those computers (servers)" ...plus, perhaps, at least 20 WH-staffers' home PCs nt |
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cdsilv (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Well yes. Easily?.... |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Intermediate machines do not save data streams |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. No, but they should be logging the transaction. |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Not even then. The traffic is broken into chunks and may take multiple routes |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. If they were stupid enough to send the email on the internet, you are correct |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Think about what REALLY happens |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
10. Tira Misu should be able to sniff out ANYTHING, deleted, erased, |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Nonsense I suggest you learn how the technology works before making such silly claims |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. MCP, MCSE.... I understand how technology works, have |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
44. "written over"? |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
12. Not an expert but... |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. When you 'delete' a file in windows....Windows marks those sectors |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. It depends. It would be no problem to destroy the emails locally |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
17. Is it presumable RNC email accts were accessed not just at WH but also at WH-aides' homes (on PCs)? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. Only if the people doing the retrieving want to find them |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
21. Absolutely.. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
23. Yes if the storage media have not been properly cleaned/erased. n/t |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
24. The bottom line is: If you accidentally delete something ,..... |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Anybody can easily insure that deleted files are not recoverable |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
35. Yes. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
42. In this case, No |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
43. Depends - if (as I suspect) a 'shred' type delete utility was used, it'd be tough |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-12-07 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
45. I find it very difficult to believe that this loss is not deliberate. |
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