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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:45 AM
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Cash for Clunkers heading to junk yard (CNN title not mine)
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 10:46 AM by Statistical
Cash for Clunkers, the very successful federal program that has brought car buyers back to showrooms, is about to reach a very rough end of the road. Auto dealers, among the biggest supporters of the program, are pulling out in large numbers, worried that they won't be reimbursed for the up to $4,500 they have advanced to each customer who trades in older gas guzzlers for more fuel efficient models.

Dealers are complaining that slow processing of paperwork by the Department of Transportation has put them in a cash flow bind, requiring them to advance well over $1 billion so far. They also worry that the delays in processing their applications could mean there are far more deals in the pipeline, a problem since the $3 billion allocated to Cash for Clunkers is already close to exhausted. According to the most recent figures from the Department of Transportation, there have been more than 457,000 deals so far, with claims of nearly $2 billion.

Michelle Primm, managing partner of Cascade Auto Group in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, said she had done about 31 clunker deals, but only has gotten money back on three of them. She said she will not close new deals until reimbursement arrives. Even though she knows she is losing sales because of that, she said she can't afford to do otherwise given how much cash is needed to run a dealership. --snip--


http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/20/news/companies/clunkers_sales/?postversion=2009082010

If you were waiting to take advantage of the CforC program don't wait too long.

My napkin math. $3B plan, $2B already spent, let's guesstimate $500M deals in process/waiting payment. That leaves about $500M in new deals available. 17,000 dealer per day = $70M per day enough for about 7 or 8 days or so.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:53 AM
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1. Funny, but inaccurate...
The program did exactly what it was planned to do. It got low-mileage vehicles off the road, sold a heckuva lot of new cars, and got the auto industry moving and calling back laid off employees.

No junkyard for this program.

The dealers are going to get paid, and they know it. They're just grousing about not getting paid yesterday. They jumped on the program and moved a bunch of cars off their lots. Yippee!
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:56 AM
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2. I agree the title is misleading but my goal was more to let people know time is running out.
Also I can see the fear the dealers have as valid. The govt has stated that there will be no suplemental funds so if a dealer sells you a car puts the paperwork in and because there is a huge backlog of rebates the program has already run out of money.... oops oh well they have no recourse.

The just lost $4500. Instead the govt should have had a firm deadline. 30 AUG. All rebates submitted by 30 AUG are valid. Period.

I do agree it did a good job of moving lots of cars off the lots and replacing low mpg vehicles with high mpg vehicles. It just looks like it will be chaotic going into the finish line.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:59 AM
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3. We got in on it the very first week. Your reminder is a good one.
Time is running out. Let's make sure DUers can take advantage of this if they want/need to.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:59 AM
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4. I was talking about CNN, not you. I'm glad you posted it.
I suspect that money will be found to reimburse every dealer for every valid clunker they took in. The program will end, as it was planned to end.

As usual, the bureaucracy to process the payments is not working as well as it should. That's no surprise to me. Very short time to prepare and the computer system was badly designed. It'll all get worked out, though.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:04 AM
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5. If the dealers got the money in less than 6 to 8 weeks
I would be surprised and want the software and programmers to rework the manufacture rebate system.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:15 AM
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6. Really. I'm expecting the car dealers to complain even louder
when the program ends and their sales drop off. If they think waiting for the reimbursements from the program is bad, I'm sure they'll find slow sales overall to be worse.

You just can't win. But...I'm calling this program a complete success. GM is reopening plants, as is Chrysler. The Ford Ranger plant here in Saint Paul is pushing production to replace sold vehicles.

All is as planned.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:25 AM
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7. This will give the Republicans more
fuel to claim a government health care will be a mess. Myself I think in the long run this program will prove to be a big mistake. It's going to backfire like the auto companies rebates have, it got to the point nobody would buy a car without a huge rebate. I have also heard used car dealers complaining about their lost sales and another thing they will now raise the price of used cars claiming there is a shortage of them. Besides that those that bought gas guzzlers a few years ago
instead of buying a fuel efficient car were rewarded.
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