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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:48 AM
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Think about this for a sec: Obama as one-term president
The village idiot was appointed president, but he 'won' a second term. A total of EIGHT years. History will always remember him as a two-term president. He never 'lost' a presidential election.

If Obama fucks this up and acts like a GOP-loving coward, the people on "the left of the left" - i.e. your average registered Democrats - will not forgive and forget. He'll be lucky to see a half-full stadium.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:51 AM
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1. I don't believe he will be a one-term president
first, Clinton didn't get anything on health care and won re-election. Obama is going to get some major health care reform with or without the public option (hopefully with). Secondly, presidential elections are going to be decided on the economy. The economy decided it for Clinton in '96 and it will decide it one way or another for Obama in '12. If the economy is better than what he inherited and humming and unemployment is falling by November of 2012 (a reasonable conclusion) Obama should win.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:51 AM
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2. What makes you think Obama might "fuck this up"?
IMO by the end of his second term people will be wondering why he can't have a third.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:01 PM
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22. If you listen to the Commentary on the News, and watch the polls
it is not hard to see why people would be upset.

It is not all Obama's fault. The Senate has been no help.
Make party look impotent and innept.

Since the Senate stay out of sight and only Obama is there
to take the blows, any mistakes are laid at his feet.

With all the anger on the right and not that much push back
from the Left, this train can come off the tracks real fast.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:28 PM
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31. You got it
someone needs to get a checkup on their commitment to support our President sounds to me like.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:51 AM
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:54 AM
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4. So maybe we should make sure progressives don't guarantee another 8 years of a "W"
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 11:55 AM by stray cat
In 2000 the progressives elected W over Gore due to a lack of enthusiasm. I hope but doubt that progressives are as smart as the right but I doubt it.

If progressives don't vote for the dem - they deserve republican rule and deserve anything that happens.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:38 PM
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15. And who the fucks fault is that?
If the fucking blue dogs and DLC 'Dems' that keep pissing on the progressives would give the progressives a REASON to vote for the Democrats, I promise the progressives WOULD vote for the Democrats.

Like we did when we put Obama if office.

Fucking blue dogs need to stop taking progressives for granted.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:23 PM
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37. Was Nader appointed to the USSC when I wasn't looking
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:59 AM
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5. You're pretty pathetic.
The fact we're calling him President Obama is pretty improbable.

So why should I doubt we'll be calling him our president in 2014?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:08 PM
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6. Bush did not "win" in 04
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:09 PM
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7. I think the poster knows that because he wrote 'won'
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:11 PM
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8. You're probably correct on that. I missed it. Thanks for pointing it out!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:12 PM
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:26 PM
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13. .
:spray:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:16 PM
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10. A lot can happen in four years
By the time 2010 rolls around, you may end up actually liking our president.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:20 PM
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11. well, sure sounds like you want that to happen, doesn't it.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:25 PM
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12. Think about this for a sec: piggies in tutus. Just as precious as your post, doncha think? nt
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:32 PM
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14. Carter was one term and Reagan was a two termer... Nixon elected twice also.
being a one term president does not mean you were wrong, sometimes it means the majority of voters was
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:52 PM
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19. If Obama doesn't pull off meaningful healthcare..he will be Carter because he will be rolled
by Repugs and Dems will not forgive him.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:40 PM
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16. Okay, so that's one cheese with everything, right? nt
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:42 PM
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17. extra sauce and pepperoni too please
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:56 PM
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20. Anchovies, dammiT Just ONCE! Please?! nt
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:49 PM
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18. has a sitting president
ever lost their party's nomination for a second term?
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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:14 AM
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45. Yes, Millard Fillmore ... Chester Arthur as well
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Sukie Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:00 PM
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21. Man
I absolutely hate it when I fall for and open up posts like this.:banghead:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:01 PM
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23. "All politics is local." Tip O'Neill
If the average voter believes that Obama has fucked up, rightfully or wrongfully, they will vote him out.

Ideology runs very low on voter concerns.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:02 PM
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24. people on the left of the left -- not necessarily your average registered Democrats
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 01:05 PM by onenote
Not sure how you come to the conclusion that the average Democrat is "on the left of the left".
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:04 PM
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25. I want to go to expert school.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:15 PM
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26. ...
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:21 PM
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27. He probably has no intention of running for a second term n/t
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:24 PM
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29. Thanks for the drive by...
Dude its AUGUST, nothing important happens in August. The President has been in office now for what, 7 months? Chill out.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:50 PM
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32. You're welcome
Why does everyone assume a Prez wants two terms?

:shrug:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:55 PM
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35. Maybe historical precedent?
None but LBJ have refused to run for a second term in the modern era of the Presidency.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:21 PM
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36. How about ego.
You can't be a first tier President with just one term.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:07 AM
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42. How about first African American President for historical precedent?
His legacy is set.

Why would he stick around waiting to get skewered for pushing a corporate agenda?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:28 PM
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39. Probably true. nt.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 06:57 PM
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41. Um...On What Planet Do You Spend Most Of Your Time?
Nothing matters to Obama more than being President. He's bending over backwards, frontwards and sideways to kiss as much ass as he possibly can so everyone will keep thinking he's a great guy...all so he can be President again in 2012. Which is precisely why he's such a crappy President.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:09 AM
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43. Planet DU
He can't keep dodging his campaign of Hope and Change for eight full years.

It won't happen.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 01:35 PM
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47. I Hope You're Right.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:25 PM
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30. well well well
aren't you a ray of fucking sunshine.

I'd wager many delusional people are living in a wet paper bag.
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WillieW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:52 PM
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33. No way!! He is too smart to f. this up.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:53 PM
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34. Bill Clinton signed welfare reform, DOMA, DADT, and NAFTA and
got a significantly larger share of the votes in 1996 as compared to 1992.
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:26 PM
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38. Then we can thank those "people on the left" you invoke for the next GOP Administration.
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 03:28 PM by SidneyCarton
In frankness, I think that most thinking Democrats aren't going to leave Obama in the lurch in 2012, a pity you don't seem to be one of them.

BTW. The GOP Committee to elect a sociopath President in 2012 thanks you in advance for your kind support. "After all, it's malcontents like you that make our victories possible."
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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 06:47 PM
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40. Thanks to members of the neighborhood right-thinking enforcement/reactionary denunciation program
So, where do I sign up for reprogramming?
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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:09 AM
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44. If he capitulates and signs a bill without a public option, I agree
Obama will be a one term President.

If a bill is not passed, Obama will lose the House, but he won't be a one term President.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:17 AM
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46. Democrats have won the last five presidential elections - A republican can not
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 12:41 AM by LaPera
get elected president...they have to steal it.

And that goes for 2012 as well.

Obama is a democrat and he'll win in 2012 - The republicans will have to find a way to steal it again in 2012 if they expect republicans to have the presidency in 2012.

(But, if Obama doesn't get and sign a health care bill with a strong public option...it will indeed make it a lot tougher for the democrats, one big reason, and there are so many reasons, why the republicans are doing all they can to stop health care reform).
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