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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:23 PM
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The difference between our justice system, and other systems
it goes beyond cultural, but the outrage in the US that you are seeing is based on the American belief that once somebody is convicted they are beyond redemption or compassion. We should also not look at the nature of the crime, or even ask if perhaps there was a mistake this. (Which even some of the Scottish relatives are now asking)

But the outrage is another look into the darker impulses of the US. We are not for redemption, no, our systems of justice are meant to punish period. In fact, we are all for executing the infirm and the mentally ill as well. This is part of the culture. It is a very dark part of the culture. Now compassion is impossible in this cultural imperative.

To me this also means that the US will not evolve into a more WE society until this eye for an eye mentality also stops.

As to this man being released. I have no say. it is THEIR justice system. That said, it speaks volumes about a system that is capable of compassion, and the underlying society. at THIS moment.

To those screaming the loudest who also happen to follow the Judeo Christian Tradition, compassion is a value... not just a word.

But in the final analysis. you can be outraged all you want... this is NOT your legal system. It is theirs, so we have no say. At least not beyond the tersely phrased diplomatic exchanges. You don't like it, don't visit the UK.

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BuddyBoy Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:29 PM
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1. Which is exactly why it WON'T stop.

"To me this also means that the US will not evolve into a more WE society until this eye for an eye mentality also stops."

In case anyone misses the point: the ruling class hates the very idea of a "WE" society.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:32 PM
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3. That is also up to us
and we do not wish to fight for it either...

:-(

Oh and welcome to DU
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:44 PM
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4. i agree with
you both-

except that "we" including us Nadinbrzezinski won't ever get there if we tell ourselves we won't.

K&R your OP-

:hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:46 PM
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6. After the last eight years I concludded
that Americans either are not hurting enough or are too well propagandized to believe that any civil disobedience is way too radical.

So yes, call me a defeatist.

:-(
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:09 PM
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8. i can't
call you a defeatest-

If you didn't care, if you didn't want it to be different, you wouldn't have posted your OP.

:hi:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:31 PM
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2. K&R
Well said.

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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:46 PM
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5. Our system would have let him go too.
He would have cost the corporate run penal system too much money. Better to dump him on somebody else and save a few bucks.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:51 PM
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7. Thank you.
It is THEIR justice system.
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