scheming daemons

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Thu Aug-20-09 08:55 PM
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Wow...on a Democratic board, advocating for the ouster of Obama in '12 is acceptable...

Sticky notes saying "Kucinich in 2012".....

....implies the donater is advocating the defeat of Obama.

Thanks for the donation, fellas. But you DO realize that your donation is going to a site that advocates FOR Obama?

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AuntPatsy

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Thu Aug-20-09 08:56 PM
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1. For some, they have a hard time seeing the whole picture....

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G_j

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Thu Aug-20-09 08:56 PM
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2. Kucinich isn't a Democrat? nt

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scheming daemons

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Thu Aug-20-09 08:57 PM
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3. Advocating against the sitting DEMOCRATIC President is a violation of DU rules...

....or at least it used to be.

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parasim

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:04 PM
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8. Is there a mention in the rules about advocating against a sitting President?

I wasn't aware of that. I thought it was more about just supporting Democrats.

(for the record, I see absolutely no reason not to fully support Obama for a second term at this time.)

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Kaleva

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:05 PM
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10. The rule being changed in the last few months?

As DU wasn't around the last time there was a sitting Democrat(ic) President, the rule, if there was one, would have to have been changed since Obama won the election.

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orleans

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:07 PM
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11. ahem--got a link to that one? n/t

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WeDidIt

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:10 PM
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15. Primaries are FAIR GAME

It has never been against DU rules to advocate for your candidate in Democratic primaries.

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Mojambo

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:14 PM
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19. I don't believe this to be true.

Seeing as how this site has only recently seen it's first sitting Democratic president.

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Individualist

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:45 PM
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27. Prove it..

Lying about the rules isn't going to make everyone do what you want.

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Richard Steele

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:04 PM
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34. Wrong.

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noamnety

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:00 PM
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4. DU advocates for "democrats," not "incumbant democrats"

and Kucinich is a democrat. I'm not seeing the problem, just as I didn't see the problem when people advocated for Lamont in the primary against Joe Lieberman.

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bluestateguy

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:02 PM
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5. I'll support Kucinich in '12...

for reelection to his House seat.

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Mari333

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:02 PM
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6. hah!

read my sticky note

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L0oniX

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:02 PM
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7. Wrong! It's a democratic website. Kucinich is a Democrat.

I suppose if you were for Obama in the primary you would have wanted DU to kick out all the pro Clinton members ...right? DOH!

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Deep13

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:05 PM
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9. While likely, it is not dead certian that Obama will be the nominee.

IMO, that is something that must be earned. So, I think he's looking good so far, even if he initially stumbled on this health care thing.

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DJ13

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:08 PM
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12. This isnt Obama Underground

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Cant trust em

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:09 PM
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13. I've decided that I will be accepting of these people.

Kucinich is a democrat and if the poster isn't a fan of Obama, then them's the breaks.

Do I agree with this person, no.

Do I believe they have a right to have that opinion, yes.

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Texasgal

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:10 PM
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14. Sorry... but you are wrong

DU is "DEMOCRATIC" underground.

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Mojambo

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:13 PM
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16. AND the election of another Democrat.

Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 09:13 PM by Mojambo

I see absolutely nothing wrong here.

People need to get over the stickies.

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Kaleva

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:13 PM
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17. Neither Kucinich or Obama have declared they will run in 2012

It's a safe bet that Obama will run for re-election but as far as I know, he hasn't officially declared his candidacy so professing support for another Dem to run wouldn't be against DU rules I imagine.

This argument is kinda like the debate about those people having guns at Obama's appearances. One can argue that the gun toters aren't breaking any laws and are exercising their rights but others argue that their motive is to disrupt and to intimidate and the law ought to be changed.

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bertman

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:14 PM
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18. Teapot meet tempest.

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NYC_SKP

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:17 PM
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20. The un-recs of this thread are very telling... Reminds me of...

Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 09:18 PM by NYC_SKP

my thread of a day or two ago wishing DK would get on board or STFU.

Up to 15, down to 7, etc....

Mebbe there are some Ron Pauler's teamin' up with Kucinichers.

:shrug:

FWIW, I like Kucinich, love him even, but he's also an ass at times.

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liberalmuse

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:19 PM
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21. I've been a huge Kucinich fan since 2001.

But I just want to go off on liberals who are so ready to toss President Obama aside after only 8 fucking months. I have no patience for such blatant nonsense.

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MercutioATC

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:20 PM
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22. THIS is the best you've got?

really?

I'd be embarrassed for you if I could find the smilie for it...

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Maru Kitteh

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:23 PM
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23. I'm not a Kucinich fan, but I don't see anything wrong with that particular sticky.

Kucinich still has the same ice-cubes-chance-in-hell he's always had, but he is most certainly a Democrat, and this is Democratic Underground. An "Obama lied" or "Obama/Biden = GOP" would be unacceptable, but a sticky favoring a Dem is a different thing.

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MadHound

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:30 PM
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24. As much as you would like to think otherwise, this is not Obama Underground

This is Democratic Underground. DK is a Democrat, a far better one most.

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IWWJoe

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:38 PM
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25. I'm new and I'm with you n/t

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Forkboy

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Thu Aug-20-09 09:44 PM
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26. You have a fragile psyche.

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valerief

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Thu Aug-20-09 10:32 PM
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28. Uh, the site advocates for Democrats. nt

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geek tragedy

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Thu Aug-20-09 10:41 PM
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29. Let the Kucinich fans have their daydream fantasies. nt

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HughMoran

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Thu Aug-20-09 10:44 PM
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30. Leave them alone!

Leave them alone!!

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aikoaiko

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Thu Aug-20-09 10:59 PM
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31. Your outrage reaches a bit too far on this one. Its just a donation sticky.

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Political Heretic

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:01 PM
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32. Um... no. It is a site FOR democrats. DK is a democrat.

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:01 PM
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Thu Aug-20-09 11:07 PM
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35. This site advocates for Democrats, not a particular Democrat. n/t

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