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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:11 AM
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Is our Interstate Highway System a "government-run" program?
If so, why do so many anti-government people use it? Granted, they do pay taxes to support it so they do have the right to drive on it. But I wonder if they ever think of it as a government-run program as they whip by you in their SUV's with the "Support Our Troops" ribbon and their faded Bush/Cheney bumper stickers? In a hurry to get to their government job, I guess?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:21 AM
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1. The most vocal haters of big government I know are employed as


a public school teacher, a police officer, and a toll collector on the New Jersey turnpike. Go figure.
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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:27 PM
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15. I know a lesbian special education teacher who offered
$100 to our friends to buy their votes for McCain - and we live in SC.

Talk about voting against yourself.

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:24 AM
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2. not only that, it's a massive subsidy of the automobile industry, as well
Cars only work if you have roads to drive them on.

governments build roads.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:27 AM
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3. Roads, water pipes, and electricity are big subsidies to corporations...
paid for mainly by taxpayers. But they do provide jobs.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:28 AM
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4. They only oppose big government when....
It is something they don't want or already have.


They never oppose it when they take welfare, food stamps, have government jobs, and use the roads.
They only oppose it when it would provide other people with medical care, give other people a job, or cost them money.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:32 AM
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5. They justify it because Ike started it.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:35 AM
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6. What is even more galling
is that it was built by REPUBLICAN President Eisenhower, you remember, the guy that warned against the military/industrial complex that we have succumbed to?.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:36 AM
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8. Eisenhower signed it into law...
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 10:36 AM by kentuck
But, as usual, it was passed by a Democratic Congress.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:36 AM
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7. Heck, yes.
And, I would add, it's one from which the poor benefit little and the rich benefit a lot. Many poor people do not even own cars. Many can't drive at all. If they do have cars and they do drive, they seldom travel on the Interstate highways. They don't benefit from this government give-away nearly as much as the rich and the upper-middle classes do.

But they still pay for it with their taxes.

:dem:

-Laelth
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:40 AM
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9. I could be wrong but I think its mostly a state deal with heavy subsidies from the Fed
And it may be that the Fed pays the vast majority of it, but I think there has to be at least substantial state involvement.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:43 AM
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10. There are state highways and the Federal Interstate Hwy system..
I think the federal tax on gasoline is intended to keep up the interstate hwy system? I don't believe the states have much to do with the upkeep of the Interstate Hwy System?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:39 PM
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16. I can only give you my impression
Here's what I've got floating around in my brainpan from foggy old memories that I haven't done a thing to improve - so don't take this as factual, more advisory - somehow the states come up with the projects and have to provide some very small portion of the funding. The state has to come up with the money first though, to show something or another, and then the Fed does a big end match and follows up with paying the state to do the maintenance ever there after.

As for the State highway system (which as a motorcycle rider is where I like to spend most of my traveling time) I believe there are heavy Federal subsidies for their upkeep that are provided by formula grant. Formula Grants, which most folks don't know much about, are Federal Grants that go directly to the states that aren't discretionary to the agencies who award them and the amount each state gets is defined by formula in statute. They cover all sorts of things. These are always big dollar, big picture types of areas of coverage so things like state highway systems fit nicely into the concept and practice.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:57 AM
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11. you betcha. School funding is bound up in
interstate funds. (or was when I was in school)
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:01 AM
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12. Would love to see a Republican whose life was reduced to not ever using roads
People live in their cars in the modern age, they'd be reduced to mowing their neighbors yard and selling fruit on the side of the street if they didn't have the benefit of the nation's highways.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:35 AM
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13. oh but the highways would be so much better if privately run.
wouldn't you rather pay a toll every dozen miles or so?
wouldn't you rather some profit-motivated analyst weight the cost of repairing potholes against the likely lawsuit payouts?
wouldn't you rather they charge different tolls based on your car make/model in order to segment the market for further profit?
wouldn't you rather they charge a fee to handle cash at the toll booth?
wouldn't you rather they charge a fee to give directions at the toll booth?
wouldn't you rather they charge a fee to use the facilities at rest stops?
wouldn't you rather they charge a major fee if you have a break down or an accident?

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:04 PM
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14. Yes, and dammit, people get to use it for FREE!! Socialism!!1
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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:44 PM
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17. I personally think the interstate highway system is the worst thing that happened to the environment
JMHO
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