So a reporter from time went on the News Machine

and spoke about how our cheap food system is leading to this obesity crisis. She also made the allusion on how much more expensive it is to buy fresh fruit and vegies (and it is... my food budget has gone through the roof), than to buy High Corn Syrup, fat and sugar laden food products.

Now I will disagree with the reporter, there is a clear villain the story... and his first name is Greed, his second is corporations. Things just don't come up fully formed from Zeus's head. I know, he cannot really say it, probably would be canned by the company that pays him, but here is the other piece of the story that caught my attention. People are paying attention.

So for the PRC that keeps saying there is nothing to this, free will, yada, yada, yada... we are getting more and more articles, not just in the scientific lit where you will not bother to read... but the popular magazines. And yes the crisis is real, and yes there is a problem when a bag of highly processed potato chips are much cheaper, not just cheaper, than the same fresh russets at the store.

especially when I don't know about you, but my milk comes from very local supplies, well except the organic... that one comes farther afield.

discrepancy is stunning.

Now, in Canada, milk is INSANELY expensive.

and I suspect Canada and Mexico have a similar problem. They import quite a bit of it, I know that for a fact in Mexico. I would not be surprised if that is the case in Canada, or they have issues due to the "mild" winters up there.

:-)

Now in Mexico if you are dirt poor you do qualify for a government subsidy, that the right has been trying to get rid off for decades. This subsidy allows a person to buy a liter of milk per kid per week at dirt cheap prices.

And, a Brita filter/pitcher is a bigger expense on the front-end, but pays for itself in about two or three months.

Milk does, or the nasty effects on bones that sodas have.

So if I have growing kids, I need to buy milk and ahem give them milk, not just water.

Want me to link to studies on the role of calcium, vitamin D and growing bones? And yes in theory I could find that calcium in vegies, a few have them, but not as available or bio available as milk.

Now up to age two buying whole is also recommended, and then you cut back on the fat due to the effects on health that can have, but until age two, or three kids need that concentrated source... after all between age 0 and 24 months we do the MOST intense growing, and that includes the brain.

So you are against drinking milk? Or this is just a but, water is cheaper, my favorite retort from the PRC...

I can drink a gallon of skim (or any other kind) all by lonesome in a week. I LOVE the stuff.

No!

My point is that you shouldn't give soda at all, milk or some other calcium twice a day and then water all day in between.

that tinfoil readjusted. This is how they are going to deal with this now?

Or is this just a verboten topic topic on DU? Or just to a clique that is committed to maintaining the illusion?

And given how many times I have been right about that tin foil hattery, politics of terror is just the last one... I guess this is just a small one.

:-)

So the tactic has changed after they were told, we know what you are up to... so there is now a policy of ignoring the flame bait

Go to any state, and ask the old-timers what "used to be" where there are now rows and rows of housese, surrounded by ribbons of asphalt..

orchards used to be in some places
family farms used to be in other places


We've corporatized food..

side note:

we lived 7+ years perched just south of the Michigan border, and every year our newspaper published a map showing all the orchards close to us. We always took "picking trips" up north for apples, peaches, pears, apricots.. all varieties, and all easy to pick your own, and so economical..and there's no tastier fruit than the one your picked yourself..

I have not been back there since we moved, but I'd bet money that most of them are now housing developments.

what is amazing is ... how these articles on TIME go out of their way NOT to find a villain. Time wasn't that way by the way... at least not until it was taken over.

So they go out of their way to tell us well, shit this came out of Zeus's head fully form... ergo there is really nothing we can do after we tell you there is a problem.

That is what I find so unfrigging amazing.