Olympia Snowe (R-ME) to Andrea Mitchell, just now on MSNBC........

CrownPrinceBandar

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:12 PM
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Olympia Snowe (R-ME) to Andrea Mitchell, just now on MSNBC........

the public option is off the table for the "Gang of Six" finance committee. Sorry, no link - she just concluded the interview.

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county worker

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:14 PM
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1. I don't get it. The finance committee is more than six!

Enlarge the gang and let's get the public option!

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wryter2000

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:16 PM
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7. Baucus decided to limit it to those 6

What good his he? I mean, really...

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GreenPartyVoter

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:14 PM
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2. I just emailed them all in favor of it. Damn. I wish I had done it sooner but

I am not sure if it would have mattered. I don't think they ever wanted it.

(Olympia, as my Senator I hope you are deeply ashamed. You know how much MaineCare has meant to the people of this state who had no other chance at healthcare!)

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Curtland1015

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:14 PM
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3. Screw that six pack of morons.

I'm so tired of hearing what WON'T be in the damn bill. I almost just want to bury myself underground until this mess gets some kind of meaningful write up.

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GreenPartyVoter

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:16 PM
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5. If they say no, does that mean there won't be a public option? Can Obama send the bill back

and say, "I won't sign this until you put it back in there?"

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wryter2000

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:18 PM
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9. Nancy Pelosi's done that

They can pass any garbage they want in the Senate. If it doesn't get through the House, it's dead.

(Must call Pelosi's office, even though she isn't my Rep)

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Curtland1015

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:18 PM
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10. I believe he can.

Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 12:18 PM by Curtland1015

As far as I know (and perhaps there's someone out there more politically knowledgeable than me who can say different...) the committee is just there to give it's recommendation. They have no real power to force the way the bill is shaped. I may be wrong on that...

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DrDan

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:26 PM
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16. you assume that is a line-in-the-sand for him

it isn't - he is clear on that

he is a supporter - but that does not mean it is the only option he will accept

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The Magistrate

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:15 PM
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4. These 'Negotiations' Are A Sham In Any Case, Sir

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dgibby

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:21 PM
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11. Indeed, Sir.

I fear you are correct.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8602112&mesg_id=8602348

All smoke and mirrors, a side show for the masses, while the true intent was about getting the Health Insurance Industry money into the pockets of the Democrats.

It's. always. about. the. money!

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CrownPrinceBandar

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:26 PM
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17. You are correct sir.................

This committee is a sham. Why are there equal numbers of Dems and Reps? That does NOT reflect the face of the Senate, and gives the Reps more power which they were not given in the last election. It seems curious to me that given the behavior of Reps of late (especially Sen. grASSley) that we can trust they'll be reasonable or bipartisan. My point was that some thought that Sen Snowe would have been reasonable and an ally. Party before people, I guess.

Always good to see you sir.

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The Magistrate

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:30 PM
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20. And You, Your Grace

We are in agreement over the make-up of this 'gang' as well. Baucus should be stripped of his chairmanship for this; the thing should be wrought by the entire committee.

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OmmmSweetOmmm

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:35 PM
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24. I was just going to post that. Thank you sir.

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wryter2000

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:16 PM
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6. No big surprise there

Did you hear Rachel and Kent Jones do their skit about Republicans and health care?

Rachel: Do you want pizza for lunch?
Kent: Yeah.
R: Pepperoni, sausage?
K: No, no.
R: Mushrooms?
K: No.
R: Bell pepper?
K: No.
R: But, you want pizza, right?
K: Oh, sure.
R: We could get ham.
K: No.
R: You just want cheese?
K: No. No cheese.
R: Sauce?
K: No sauce.

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Bleacher Creature

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:17 PM
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8. Doesn't matter -- they are quickly becoming irrelevant.

By the way, can we please now dispatch with the myth that Snowe is a "moderate"?

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dgibby

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:25 PM
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14. This was never about the republicans.

It's always been about the Dems being in bed with the Health Care INDUSTRY.

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The Magistrate

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:25 PM
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15. Indeed, Sir: There Are No Moderate Republicans, Only A Few Who Need Some Center-Left Votes....

Why those people oblige them at the polls escapes me.

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BzaDem

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:21 PM
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12. That has been known for months unfortunately.

Did she say anything else interesting? She might hold the key vote on whatever we try to pass the Senate (assuming the gang of six fails).

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CrownPrinceBandar

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:35 PM
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25. Not really...........

She said she hoped that any solution would be a bipartisan one. The comment I noted came up in response to Pelosi's quote that the public option is essential.

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Davis_X_Machina

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:49 PM
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28. Finance won't even report out a bill....they're broken.

Baucus, and Conrad, are like chess players with a losing position who are going to let the flag drop on their clocks and lose on time, rather than get beat over the board. The Senate GOP sent word out via Kyl that nothing is acceptable to their caucus -- no version, no compromise is enough to get GOP votes. And in the House, Pelosi's train is leaving the station already. They screwed the pooch, they know it, and this is the only semi-dignified exit.

HELP's version will be the Senate's lone contribution to conference, and whatever emerges, Snowe will vote for cloture, and against the bill. That's her usual straddle, and I don't think she'll change.

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CrownPrinceBandar

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Fri Aug-21-09 01:08 PM
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31. You're right..........

and Grassley and Enzi's hinting that they need a bill that would garner 70-80 votes is tipping their hand as well. These guys are not interested in HCR in any meaningful fashion and are willing to change the rules to get what they want.

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Cleita

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:24 PM
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13. Bernie Sanders just said on Thom Hartmann that all the bills in all

the committees are going to have to be reconciled. That means that Baucus's committee doesn't have the last word yet.

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Hawkeye-X

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:35 PM
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23. The bill from Finance COmmitte will be ignored. Or my favorite..

Thrown in the metal wastebasket, soaked with gasoline and lit on fire.

That's what I think of Baucus and his "Gang of 6" morons.

Hawkeye-X

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GreenPartyVoter

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:48 PM
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27. Is there still a bill out there that offers a public option that is bascially

MediCare for all ages and for everyone who wants it? Because that's the option I want to see.

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Cleita

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Fri Aug-21-09 01:00 PM
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30. Me too. Hoping that the majority of senators see the Finance committee's

bill for what it is, a give away to the insurance industry of taxpayer's money.

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GreenPartyVoter

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Fri Aug-21-09 01:23 PM
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34. I am emailing all the Senators right now asking for a MediCare option for anyone who wants it.

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kath

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Fri Aug-21-09 01:18 PM
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32. That's my question as well - is there even ONE bill that contains anything that could actually be

considered a ROBUST, meaningful public option? Such crap as "10 million people in public option by 2019" is in NO fuckin' way a robust option, nor is it real "health care reform".

Been too busy too keep up with all the proposals out there.

IMO, lame-ass so-called "reform" is worse than nothing at all.

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WeDidIt

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:28 PM
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18. Olympis Snowe's SENATE SEAT is on the table for take over in 2012.

and she's depending on cash form insurance and big pharma to win again.

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Davis_X_Machina

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM
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26. It's her seat for life, and she could spend $13 dollars..

...in Uncle Henry's for her only campaign ad and still win 60-40. She gets a near-majority of Democratic votes.

Safest seat in the Senate -- safer than Ted Kennedy's.

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nadinbrzezinski

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:30 PM
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19. Olymnpia I know you are an R and this will make you sing

but if in the final bill there is no PO that is effective, many of us are done with the duopoly

Period

Those of you who want to continue playing ball with Lucy, be my guest

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Captain Hilts

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:30 PM
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21. Then they should have no public option. nt

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BlueIdaho

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:35 PM
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22. Time to stop wasting time...

The republicant's have decided they can kill health care reform and blunt Obama's Presidency so they are not going to compromise - period. When oh when will our President stop trying to butter up these assholes? Its time for a new strategy - hard headed political hardball. Jam this down their throats and make them choke on it.

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damntexdem

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:50 PM
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29. Another Snowe job.

Screws the Rethugs and pass meaningful health coverage reform.

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