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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:56 PM
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Huckabee ridiculed on Israel's IBA News
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Huckabee ridiculed on Israel's IBA News
August 20, 3:17 PMForeign Policy Examiner
Aimee Kligman



Mike Huckabee is visiting Israel as a 'private citizen'. Surely.

He has heavilly criticized President Obama's vision for peace in the Middle East, and undermined the efforts of not only the United States, but those of our allies who are working with us to stop the process of 'talking' and move into concrete actions. The U.S. has apparently also engaged with other neighboring Arab countries, including Syria, where relations appear to be improving as a result of visits by US government leaders, and special envoy Mitchell.

Mike Huckabee appears to be oblivious not only to the sixty-year old plight of the Palestinian people. He also may not be aware that while Israel has publicly barked at the settlement freeze demanded by the U.S. administration, they have very quietly stopped all building activity in East Jerusalem.

In a TV report which was diffused over Israel's IBA News, the anchor reported about Huckabee's visit, and underlined that his mission, and rhetoric flew in the face of the Obama administration on one hand, and added that it also did not fall in line with Prime Minister Netanyahu's words of recent days. There was a statement made by Huckabee which begs the question for him, much in the manner that Barney Frank responded to a woman who compared Obama to a Nazi. And the question was: 'on what planet is it that you spend most of your time?'

Huckabee endorses a Palestinian state, but one that should not be contiguous to Israel. Can we tell Huckabee that the Palestinians were there first? Does he know anything about the Balfour Declaration? Does he know that when England decided to give the 'Jews' a land of their own, that they carved out that land from a place called 'Palestine'? Of course, there were indigenous Jews already there for hundreds if not thousands of years, but they were not European.

It was telling that the IBA News reporter appeared somewhat puzzled about Huckabee's behavior. If Huckabee was keeping abreast of the events, he would have learned that Israel has, albeit without fanfare, stopped settlement activity. It is beginning to realize that the US is quite serious when it calls for peace and a separate Palestinian state. These efforts were highlighted this week with the visit of Egyptian President Mubarak, who has not set foot in the U.S. for the last six years. Like it or not, Obama's speech resonated through the Arab world, and we are beginning to see some of the fruits of civilized discourse rather than cowboy demeanor.

As for Huckabee, he may be too oblivious to be embarrassed. But let's face it; he is no Bill Clinton, private citizen or otherwise.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:59 PM
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1. Well, Mike Huckabee IS a private citizen. What the heck else could he visit Israell AS?
:eyes:
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:02 PM
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2. He needs to stop bashing the US president on foreign soil
Why have we not heard much criticism of this on the news or talk shows?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:02 PM
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3. " Huckabee endorses a Palestinian state, but one that should not be contiguous to Israel"
Where does he want it then...Belgium? Saskatchewan? Or perhaps a Palestinian version of the "Federal District of Sitka" depicted in Michael Chabon's "The Yiddish Policeman's Union"?

Has anybody told Huckabee yet that the West Bank and Gaza are next to(i.e., "contiguous to") Israel?
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:05 PM
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5. slightly off topic
that was a great book!
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:12 PM
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7. By not contiguous, he was probably meant someplace like that spot between Cyprus and Lebanon. nt
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:17 PM
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10. UH...the spot between Cyprus and Lebanon is the MEDITERRANEAN SEA
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 06:32 PM by Ken Burch


(on edit)

Oh...never mind...I get it...good one...
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:04 PM
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4. "stopped settlement activity"..
... really? I can't blame Huck for not knowing that because I didn't know it. Or more specifically I don't believe it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:11 PM
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6. I've read about it in a couple of places-here's one...
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-08-18-voa32.cfm

Israel Freezes New Settlement Projects in West Bank
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:16 PM
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9. The Problem Is, Ma'am
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 06:17 PM by The Magistrate
Is that private parties go and establish their own 'outposts', setting up trailers and generators and building fences, etc., and the government does nothing to stop it. They are not official, they are even illegal under Israeli law, but sooner or later they get army protection, and permanent construction, et voila....
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:31 PM
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14. Some of them are set up by IDF soldiers themselves
So who's gonna break up THOSE settlements?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:14 PM
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8. hee! hee!
:D



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:18 PM
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11. Wow, Swampie!
:hi:

Hope you are enjoying what's left of summer! :hug:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:36 PM
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16. hey babylonsister!
:hi::hug:



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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:26 PM
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13. Huckabee's eating "Jesus Sliders"?
n/t.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:25 PM
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12. It could also be asked, did Huckabee know that Balfour was a raving antisemite
Who supported a Jewish state in Palestine mainly because he wanted a Judenrein Britain?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:31 PM
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15. It Goes A Bit Beyond That, Sir
One of the truly charming elements of that passage of history is that most of the Anglo-American political classes held the view that Bolshevism was a Jewish concoction, summoned up to punish the Czar for pre-war pogroms, and thus effectively allied with Germany in the Great War. The Balfour declaration was in most governing quarters viewed as a payment to get the 'hidden hand of the Jew' off the throat of Russia, and put its weight on the side of Entente powers.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:41 PM
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17. Ah yes. They thought all Jews were Communists and all Communists were Jews
It couldn't possibly be that working-class gentiles could decide on their own to shake off the shackles of capitalism (just as Southern politicians in the U.S. fifty years earlier insisted that if it hadn't been for Yankee abolitionists the slaves would've been happily singin' and dancin' in the cotton fields forever as the white God intended :sarcasm: and just as fifty years later the descendants of those same Southerners and their Northern enablers insisted that if it weren't for "Outside agitators", no black people would ever have had a problem with Jim Crow, because they all "knew their place" :sarcasm: , and that if it weren't for those pinkos from Berkeley and that guy named Chavez who had been trained by Saul Alinsky none of them wetback farmworkers would ever have wanted a union or any such Commie nonesense. :sarcasm: )

Also, Bolshevism aside, most of the "great men of Europe" in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries held views on Jews in general that are only held openly today by white supremacist extremists and "Identity Christians". Anyone politician expressing such views in public today would immediately see her or his career come to an end.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:45 PM
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18. Is hucky just talking
to his supporters back home outta his ass and not caring what kind of ann impression he's going to make on Israel or Palestine for that matter?

Imagine the size of his ego actually thinking he's going to be pres? Pres Obama is working diligently on getting us out of the abyss that the last idiot got us into with the huge help of the dick cheney.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:48 PM
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19. Probably some of that. Plus, Huckabee's the sort who's only pro-Israel
because he wants to bring on the Last Days and make the Jews choose between conversion or death. In the Thirties, Huckabee would've been demanding that Jewish refugees be barred from entering the U.S. Probably still calls them "Christ killers" when he's alone with friends.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:51 PM
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20. Quite Right, Sir
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 07:04 PM
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22. One of the most despicable pols in the republicon
lineup..there's so many, each with their own brand of heinousness, that it's hard to choose the head beelzebub.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 07:02 PM
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21. In his heart of hearts, I wonder if Huckabilly really wants peace in that part of the world
Maybe the peace of the tomb, after armageddon, the rapture, and the conversion of the Jews to Christianity in the End Times?
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