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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 03:33 AM
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terence mckenna speaks: "Ozzie and Harriet Soylent Green "
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 03:42 AM by NoSheep

"Business as usual is no longer an option. There is no middle way. There is no Ozzie and Harriet third millenium scenario. The choices are either a hideous, nightmarish world, a Soylent Green kind of world. A world where people of privilege defend that privilege with tremendous establishments of armament and propaganda and the rest of the world slips into poverty, starvation, desparation and death. This is the kind of world that rationalists fear, and it's also the only kind of world they can imagine because they are bankrupt of inspiration and ideas. So the entire effort of the Establishment has become one of holding down panic, keeping the ball in play, keeping ordinary people and ordinary populations quiescent through drugs which are not psychedelic, through forms of media which are not transcendental and inspiring, but which are narcoleptic and deadening. This is the fiction that we live in. This is why our situation feels so schizophrenic. Of course as we go through this presidential election the contradictions are heightened almost to the point off nausea because what is under discussion is what manner of fine-tuning shall be applied to the social machinery in order to make it possible to hold together the illusion of business as usual - and the answer is there is no such fine-tuning, it's all finished. Instead what is needed is a radical openness to new ideas of all sorts."

Dammit I wish this weren't true. (But somehow TM remained positive!)

NoSheep


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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 04:00 AM
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1. no comments...look him up if you've never read him...for clarity.
I read his writing and it feels like I've somehow cleared the cobwebs.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 04:10 AM
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2. It is too bad that we don't have his insights to offer us anymore :(
He died way too young and he saw things as they are. The quote you chose speaks to the subject at hand that we are facing at the current time.

If you have heard about his Novelty Theory you should check it out, he called it Time Wave Zero, and he came up with the idea in the early 1970s until his death in the year 2000.

He created a software program in the early 70's by the same name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timewave_zero


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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 04:14 AM
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3. I'm glad someone else knows about his writing. I "take him" on vacation
so I can read something that makes sense. I'm forever amazed by his insight. We have the same insight..but I'm not sure I can break it down as simply as he did. I don't much like to think about him being gone. I feel so much like he is still here. I'll look into the link. Thank you.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 08:33 AM
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4. I too believe Terence is still hanging around
He's just on a different plane and frequency. He definitely was more advanced intellectually than most people.

I have a few of his books and like that there are youtube videos of his lectures.

Here's one on Time Wave Zero. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtnV25LWFQ8


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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:53 PM
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9. Thanks for the link
:hi:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 09:19 AM
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5. riding that time wave zero and wondering what the next novelty is going to be.
I sure wish he were still around.

that passage also reminds me of some David Foster Wallace might have written around. He was also interested in entertainment/entrainment. Also died too young.
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FarrenH Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 09:35 AM
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6. Mckenna needs to be read with a liberal salting of reality
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 09:38 AM by FarrenH
There's a lot of truth in the things he says and a lot of deep wisdom, especially about the mental cage that imprisons most of our minds, but his hippy-trippy worldview sends him off the deep end at times. As someone who both embraces reductionist rationalism AND holistic knowing-by-being I admired him a lot. But I think he endorsed a fair amount of new age babble as well. A lot of Mckenna's insights can be found in Buddhism and Taoism too, IMHO.
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:27 PM
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7. nice quote
I miss TM too.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:32 PM
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8. I know the elves of which he speaks.
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