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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 03:27 PM
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DU troll says something that is accurate (FINALLY)
You may remember this troll on DU (And I hope I am not breaking any rules by the way with this post):

"Stewart ought to stick to telling jokes and making faces.

He doesn't do well when he strays into the land of serious. His facts are always screwed up and he tends to rely on looking to his studio audience for laugh/clap support. Since they for the most part impressionable youngish student types, they don't carry much weight in the real world.

The thing is, we get creamed when we're shown to be obvious liars and idiots."

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:jDYLyf51j6MJ:upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php%3Faz%3Dview_all%26address%3D389x6300528+DeeWilly+creamed+site:democraticunderground.com&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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Well, DeeWilly, it looks like you were right after all.

Someone did get "creamed" in the end.

Too bad for you it was the person came up with the idea of "death panels".

Death Panelists, set your faces to stunned...

"According to the suggested reports, the alleged “death panel” originator and former lieutenant governor of New York and adjunct fellow of the Houston Institute, Betsy McCoughey has reportedly resigned from her post after suffering ample amount of humiliation in the Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

Stewart, who was well informed and prepared reportedly demonstrated McCaughey’s entire foothold in the health care reform to be “as solid as Swiss cheese”. Obama’s health care reform has recently triggered a wide array of controversies off late.

Betsy McCaughey who has also been termed as the serial mis-informer wrongly claimed in the Stewart show that the Page 432 of the House Health Care Reform Bill would make end-of-life counseling “mandatory” after backtracking from her previous statement that stated Page 425 would provide for “mandatory” end-of-life counseling. She had also stated that a provision on that page “penalizes doctors who do not follow or adhere the policies and rules that is set by the government.

The host of the show Jon Stewart noted that the words depicted by McCaughey does not point at making end-of-life counseling mandatory and does not “penalize” doctors but it rather provides incentives for the doctors on the terms of providing “data on quality measures” for end-of-life care.

After discovering that she has been made a subject of ridicule after her infamous appearance on “The Daily Show”, McCaughey reportedly stepped down from her position as the Director of Cantel Medical Corp.

Host Jon Stewart was quite aggressive on his stance thereby proving McCaughey a complete mis-informer. McCaughey has been billed as the creator of the “death panel” myth."

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world/betsy-mccaughey-resigns-after-humiliating-herself-in-jon-stewarts-show_100236356.html

So, everybody, let's give a round of applause for ol' DeeWilly, he may not have been right about Stewart, but he was right about someone getting "creamed" when that person is exposed as "obvious liar and idiot" that she is.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 03:30 PM
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1. Play her off, keyboard cat!
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 03:33 PM by Ian David
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 04:56 PM
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2. rec 12
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 05:14 PM
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3. I remember that troll. He was expremely stupid.
:rofl:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:43 AM
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4. I watched the extended interview online and I was wholly embarrassed
for her and her lack of critical thought. Stewart looked absolutely stunned by her bizarre arguments.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:59 AM
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5. Yeah I saw it too...
There is that part at the end where the lights start fading and the audience is applauding where Jon usually reaches out a hand to shake with the guest...that must be an interesting few seconds, especially after a particularly harsh drubbing like with Kramer and this lady. Does anyone else wonder what he says or at least said to her? "Hey thanks for coming on the show, sorry I had to make you look like the complete idiot your really are..." or "Hey, your a sport. It takes someone with real courage, or a complete lack of self awareness to not get up and run screaming from the studio after I make them look as completely fucked up as you looked...so thanks again."

Anyone ever sit in on the show as a member of the studio audience that might have any information on that?
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 06:16 AM
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6. I thought her drubbing was richly deserved.
The Republicans will just lie about everything. If HR676 was really being ushed they would lie about that, the compromise the "public option" faces the same lies as single payer and even the compromised compromise would face the same lies.

Republicans and their stooges just love the idea of women and the poor dying.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:59 AM
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7. Sometimes I think Jon helped saved the world. A superhero comedian. nt
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 08:05 AM
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8. Freepers have NO shame, like a dog, they lick themselves in public
and hen try to kiss your face..........
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 08:12 AM
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9. Yeah, she "stepped down."
Another word for shitcanned.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 08:28 AM
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10. And yet, the RW LOVES being interviewed by him!
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/08/why_conservative_pundits_love.html

"There is genuine intellectual curiosity," May told New York. "He's a staunch liberal, but he's a thoughtful liberal, and I respect that." May isn't the only conservative gushing about Stewart. While the movement professes a disdain for the "liberal media elite," it has made an exception for the true-blue 46-year-old comedian. "He always gives you a chance to answer, which some people don't do," says John Bolton, President Bush's ambassador to the United Nations and a Fox News contributor, who went on the show last month. "He's got his perspective, but he's been fair." Says Bolton: "In general, a lot of the media, especially on the left, has lost interest in debate and analysis. It has been much more ad hominem. Stewart fundamentally wants to talk about the issues. That's what I want to do."

~snip~

Conservatives like Stewart because he's providing them a platform to reach an audience that usually tunes them out. And they often find that Stewart takes them more seriously than right-wing political hosts, who are often just using them to validate their broad positions, do. Stewart will poke fun, but he offers a good-faith debate on powder kegs — torture, abortion, nuclear weapons, health care — that explode on other networks. "Shepard Smith did the same discussion ," says May. "He kept yelling me at me: 'This is where I get off the bus! Not in my name!' He wasn't arguing with me. It was just assertions and anger. That's not what Jon deals in."


{emphasis added}

Jon is a superhero for TRUTH! Which, of course, is why he's a Leftist. ;)




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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:05 AM
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11. I like how these guys always deride liberals
as people who are all pie-in-the-sky and fantasy-eyed such as he did with part when he said his audience was "impressionable youngish student types, they don't carry much weight in the real world".

When in reality, to be a Republican or a supposed Conservative these days you have to suspend all common sense, rational thought, ignore reality and eat up every half-ass slogan or chant the party throws at you. I have a Republican friend who constantly referred to himself as a realist during the Bush years until he watched everything that he believed in come crashing down, I always thought he, like most Republicans, are incredibly naive. These are people who look at a fact and if it doesn't conform with what they were told to believe, it doesn't even register with them. They rely on authority types to tell them everything. If Rush Limbaugh said the sky was green and made out of cheese, and I said to them that it was blue and not made out of cheese and had them look up and they saw it themselves, they would just still think it was green and made out of cheese. That's how they are, they are wired to think that way. There was a poll in North Carolina that said 12 percent of Republicans in that state either weren't sure or just did not believe that Hawaii was a state. This stems from the birther nonsense and just simply not believing Obama is a citizen no matter what. They'll buy anything a GOP source tells them. It's embarassingly stupid and naive and irrational.

As much as the GOP doesn't recognize it, they are the party of people of the caliber of Betsy McCoughey and Sarah Palin etc. Their beliefs are shallow and lack any sense of reality. They like to pretend they are adults, but they are really the party of a bunch of children. For the rest of us, it's painful to watch, especially since they hinder any viable progress that we try to make as a nation.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:37 AM
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12. I saw that show, Stewart was easy to middling on her and she still came out looking terrible...
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 09:38 AM by oxbow
He wasn't half as hard on her as male guests like Kramer or Kristol...SHE's the one who spent half the interview confused about her facts and looking for page #'s because she doesn't know how to use a Post-it, he just tried to make it entertaining for us poor basterds...that was painful and strangely satisfying to watch though, the mother of this death-panel nonsense watching her own argument fall apart on TV, and not even realizing what had happened until much later based on the look on her face!

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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:41 AM
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13. Jon's comedy is based on the screwed up facts of others.. anyone thinks he is distorting the truth
when he is pointing out the distortions of others needs serious help
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:10 AM
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14. Remember Stewart on Crossfire?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE


Ahhhhhhhhhhh....... refreshng!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:13 AM
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15. Set your faces to stunned!
that's hilarious, Bones!
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:32 PM
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16. Broken clock: twice a day. Freepers: once in a blue moon. nt
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:35 PM
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17. This isn't the first time for *Jon in The Land of Serious*
It's a good show that sometimes comes on during The Daily Show's regular time slot. Sometimes it comes on during other shows' regular time slots, like Crossfire. Betsy must have read the "Beyond the Looking Glass" opinion of the troll in the OP, but I could have told her: DO NOT, out of anyone on this entire planet,

DO NOT TRY TO BULLSHIT JON FUCKING STEWART.

What the fuck was she thinking?
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 12:38 PM
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18. I remember that post... Prescient!
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:03 PM
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19. All well and good, but, the deathers themselves will not see it that way. They will believe her re-
peated insistence of, "You're wrong," to Jon. Just like the TH terrorists who shout, "You're lying," whenever their own lies and distortions are refuted.

Also, why didn't Jon mention her ties to the Health Scare industry?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 03:32 PM
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20. Yes, indded! Her ties = those who sign off on her recommendations for how to spend the money that
comes in.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 04:01 PM
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21. LOL What is that picture in your sig?? n/t
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 04:49 AM
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22. Just a nice relaxing day out for the local KKK...
Members of Cañon City Klan No. 21 pose on and around the ferris wheel at the site of a carnival at 8th and Greenwood in Cañon City, Colorado. Klan members were invited by W.H. Forsythe, owner of the outfit and a klansman from Fort Collins, to don their gowns and pose for a group portrait.
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/books/everythingthatrises.contest37.html

http://ccpl.lib.co.us/History_Old/KKK/KKK%20Essay.html
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 08:07 AM
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23. I think we need to focus less on the right and more on the left...
We should not give right wing nut jobs more time than they already get. This story would have been good enough to stand on its own merits. Dragging in a right wing whacko dilutes the real meat. Its like when the media brings up the crazy people at the town hall meetings, it detracts from the core problems with republicans *and* democrats.
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mlevans Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 11:24 AM
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24. I know plenty of others have said this before, but
Stewart does a much better job shedding light on the facts than the majority of those who are supposed to be "real" journalists. In comedia, veritas.
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