Obama Is Getting Tired Of Waiting, Losing Patience

So…what’s it going to take for him to give up the ghost….we could’ve and have been trying to tell him this from day 1.

Obama May Abandon Effort to Reach Health Deal With Republicans

“Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama is likely in September to end Democratic efforts to work with Republicans on health-care legislation and press for a party-line vote if the stalemate on the issue in the U.S. Senate persists, a person close to the White House said.

The president and his advisers have started devising a strategy to pass a measure by relying only on the Democratic majority in each house of Congress, said the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

In a separate interview, former Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle said Obama is losing patience with negotiations between three Democrats and three Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee, the only congressional panel seeking a bipartisan consensus on a plan to remake the nation’s health- care system.

“He’s waited and waited,” Daschle said yesterday after meeting with the president. “He has indicated, much to the chagrin of people in his party, that virtually everything’s on the table. And he’s gotten almost nothing in return for it.”…cont…

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20090822/pl_bloomberg/a9fjicd6ygqk

The President shall get nothing from the GOP, and the sooner he realizes and ACTS UPON IT, the better!

I'm sure they knew from the beginning that working together was never going to happen. But look at how much it looks like the Dems were willing to give up, knowing FULL WELL the Repigs were never going to agree to play along.

Now they have free reign to to say "We gave them EVERY chance in the world to play ball. It's only their own fault they refused to."

day one of his Presidency and they have slapped him every single time. Now President Obama is facing falling poll numbers, widespread backlash against insurance reform, and the formidable task of rebuilding support.

The Independents and even Democrats are turning away from his positions on insurance reform. Apparently they don't see this as "giving them every chance to play ball", but rather as weakness and political naivete.

In the working if this strategy the reform has been watered down to a drop in the bucket

He should start over by telling the republicans that we are going to do it his and the Democratic Party's way, because the American People fired the Republican Party from making any decisions.

for acceptance of policy and voting to be be more than Dem. That was always worthy. I do believe if something other public option were available, doing the same things, as much as GOP hate all regulation, he wanted to consider. That our budget was passed with the option to get through partisan reconciliation, shows he knew this ultimate reality.

The GOP have been proven to be disinterested in helping.

:D

At some point coming soon he will break the bow and strip the strings right off that cheap violin called bi-partisanship. Give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves is his game and he's playing it to the hilt. After this fiasco the mainstream media will be left wearing no clothes and then he'll be able to get the truth out there and get some much needed change done. I have faith in my President same as many others here do while the naysayers are drowning out all the rest at the moment but that won't be happening much longer as they've about played their last hand. They meaning the naysayers here at the DU. IMHO

only sad that his poll numbers among dems have gone down, since he needs our "mandate" support to justify pushing this thing through.

he's been playing this same game for so long, I can't believe those republican fools are still falling for it. course, their only choice is to pretend to go along, and that would alienate them from their base, which is all they have.

much as Obama's appearing to go along with R has alienated him from his base (kind of a hint not to go down that road lest we end up a party with no power). Appearances are worth a lot in politics.

I don't see the rush at this point to make any overt announcements at abandoning bipartisanship. There is no reason in the world not to string the Reps along and let them look like the the bad guys in this scenario.

to actually work with us, on ANYTHING. But it was important to make the effort. Well, we have. And it has become obvious to anyone with a room temperature IQ that they will NEVER work with us. Time to move on.

Everybody needs to keep pressuring their Congresspeople BUT stop freaking out because legislation isn't moving right now. The Senate comes back Sept. 7th (or so). Senate Finance Committee has Sept. 15th as their deadline for trying for bipartisan blah, blah. Reconciliation can't even start until October 15th.

We are definitely in the Chicken Little time period where people are calling HCR DOOMED.

Everyone needs to chill a bit.

I'm still waiting to see him stand up to the Republicans. The voters sent a clear and unmistakable message in November. The right is ruining this country and "change" is needed asap. Obama needs to get with the program or get out of the way.

each and every one of us should be hounding our congressional rep + senators, so (that after the break) when they go back to washington they will know our demands

The GOP has no interest in effective health care reform, because that will hurt them politically. That is why they opposed Clinton's plan. Obama either knows this and doesn't care, or he doesn't know it. Its almost like Obama didn't learn the most important lesson of the failed Clinton plan: Republicans want to destroy any domestic achievements that will endorse the concept of a welfare state and strong federal government. Effective health reform that dramatically improves middle class security and that is affordable will destroy the GOP in 2010 and 2012. How can Obama not know this?

It is very sad.

Like I said in another post, look at Obama's interactions with Joe Lieberman.

Lieberman begged Obama to campaign for him in 2006 against Lamont, and Obama did
Senator Lieberman then sided with McCain over Obama in 2008 in the election, even saying '60 dem senators would be dangerous'
Obama, after he won the election, refused the idea of stripping Lieberman of his powers in the senate, and didn't fight back or seek vengeance
Lieberman now, despite having a 100% rating on voting for public health care in the past, is opposed to the public option in healthcare.

Obama helped Lieberman get elected in the senate, Lieberman responded by supporting McCain over Obama, Obama refused to fight back or punish Lieberman, now Lieberman won't support the public option.


I know its kosher to say Obama is planning all this, and just faked wanting bipartisanship so he could demonize the GOP to the American people. That may be the case. But honestly, you look at his behavior with Lieberman (help him, get betrayed, refuse to seek vengeance, get betrayed again, never fight back during the whole process) and I think Obama may actually be more naive. If so, I hope he pulls an FDR and wakes up to what he is up against before it is too late.


On an unrelated note, the fact that Obama supported Lieberman over Lamont was disappointing. The fact that he plans to support Specter over Sestak is infuriating. Which is why we have to get Sestak elected in 2010.

There are at least 43 so far

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/08/how-many-votes-does-public-option-have.html


If the dems can't get 50 votes in the senate, then that is pathetic

he's in a virtually impossible position

rather than dissing progressives, the numbers wouldn't be an issue.

he has to appear to look as if he is reaching out to the GOP. And the GOP has shown themselves to be top level scum. So now he can move on. Forget about them.


"See, I tried working with those motherfuckers, but they hate my ass and raising Cain so I'm going to move on, cause I WON and I have the capital"


You know damn well that is what he is thinking!