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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 01:50 PM
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OK, let's get down to brass tacks.....
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 02:18 PM by Aviation Pro
....here is a connect the dots moment. From Frank Rich's excellent column today we have this:

"This week the journalist Ronald Kessler’s new behind-the-scenes account of presidential security, “In the President’s Secret Service,” rose to No. 3 on The Times nonfiction best-seller list. No wonder there’s a lot of interest in the subject. We have no reason to believe that these hugely dedicated agents will fail us this time, even as threats against Obama, according to Kessler, are up 400 percent from those against his White House predecessor."

And from James Bamford's review of Newspew's Ronald Kessler's new rim job book on the Secret Service we have:

"The agents complain that they, too, are put at risk. But for all their talk of danger, there are few jobs in law enforcement as safe as that of a Secret Service agent. None have been killed during an assassination attempt in more than half a century, and few have been wounded. It is far more hazardous to put on a Bureau of Indian Affairs or Park Police badge."

So here's the question: has any Secret Service agent ever taken a bullet for any President? If you go back to the attempt on FDR's life to the JFK assassination, to the two attempts on Jerry "Amway Protector" Ford, to Reagan not one has taken that round the way they proudly proclaim.

The salient fact of the matter is that the SS is populated by conservative leaning, former action guys who make the supreme mistake in believing that they were that good back in the day.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:43 PM
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1. As I recall
Edited on Sun Aug-23-09 02:47 PM by rrneck
one SS agent stepped between Ron Reagan and the shooter to stop a bullet and got hit. Of course, when the shooting starts any agent summarily throwing the president into the car can be hit as well.

Haven't found an image yet.

on edit.

Wikipedia (natch)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_assassination_attempt

Shortly before 2:30 PM local time (EST), as Reagan walked out of the hotel's T Street NW exit toward his waiting car, Hinckley emerged from the crowd of admirers and fired a Röhm RG-14 .22 cal. blue steel revolver six times in three seconds.<11> The first bullet hit White House Press Secretary James Brady in the head.<12> The second hit District of Columbia police officer Thomas Delahanty in the back.<12><13><14> The third overshot the president and hit the window of a building across the street. The fourth hit Secret Service agent Timothy McCarthy in the abdomen.<12><13> The fifth hit the bullet-proof glass of the window on the open side door of the president's limousine. The sixth and final bullet ricocheted off the side of the limousine and hit the president in his left armpit, grazing a rib and lodging in his lung, stopping nearly an inch from his heart.<9>


Watch the video. They are that good.

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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 02:55 PM
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2. Ever heard of
Timothy McCarthy?
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 03:42 PM
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3. Bamford is an idiot.
"None have been killed during an assassination attempt in more than half a century,..."


Nice selection of time frame. Why not look at the full history of the Secret Service?

Here are two that died.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Craig_(Secret_Service)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Coffelt



:banghead: :banghead:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 03:45 PM
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4. Geez, what do you have against the Secret Service? n/t
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