Didn't Laura Welch Bush have a bit of a driving mishap in her past?

Don't touch it.

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everytime they bring up Kennedy's accident...bring up Laura's...you know she was drinking that night....

that is immediately reported to the authorities and a 37 year old United States Senator who has an accident and doesn't report it will make the Senator look good?

Drop it. You don't know Laura was drunk. No tests were performed. Speculating that she was simply validates the baseless speculation that surrounds Teddy's accident.

It's intended to illustrate the selective anger of the right.

You don't think if an incident like Bush's were to be uncovered in Michelle Obama's past, it wouldn't be beaten to death?

The left needs to do anything it can to demonize and demoralize the right..make them eat shit!!!!

for me the incident at chappaquiddick is a black mark on the senators life, as i still dont understand why he left the scene and didnt summon aid..

... the OP's point, I believe, is that why should we be expected to let Laura Bush's "mishap" go if they won't let Teddy's go.

I don't see anything wrong with bringing these things up if we encounter a bigot, hater, freeper, etc.

But one should be armed with the facts.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp

I don't give a God damn how progressives and liberals win just so long as they do...our problem for the past thirty years is that we've been a big bunch of pussies and let the right define us and our cause!

Of course that's considered an "asset" when you marry into the Bush Crime Family.

will point out her chappaquiddick incident.

I can love Ted Kennedy and his legacy without denying he made some serious mistakes.

In fact, it's his mistakes that made him human.

If you want to point out the hypocrisy among Freepers about them mentioning that car accident 40 years ago, ask them why whenever a Republican breaks a law or does something vile all they have to do is "accept Christ" and all is forgiven instantly.

he left Kopechne in the car and didn't report the accident for 9 hours. It was a dark and ugly episode. there's no two ways around it. He was a grown man and yeah, he was fucking around like crazy. Laura Bush was seventeen. there's never been any suggestion that she was drunk. And sorry, dearie, but she isn't a politician.

let it go.

the ending: let it go.

A hearty thumbs up :thumbsup:

No big deal--it could happen to anyone. Ted Kennedy though--now that was serious.

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no felony there!!

She doesn't matter; never did. Nobody ever elected her to anything and she never had any power. Apples and oranges.

Ted Kennedy did a lot of great things, and at least one not-great one: Panicking when his friend drowned and not calling authorities. No matter what we say, it was a tragic event, and a scar on his public image. Of course people who don't like him will bring it up. That's their right. And really, any biography of him that doesn't at least recount the event is not just incomplete, but a whitewash.

It's there. It exists. Let's not pretend it didn't. He was an excellent public servant, but he wasn't Superman.

so if any "recounting" is to be done, it should include the many holes in the story, and the strong possibility that Teddy may have been framed, which MSM doesn't touch.

So are you suggesting he didn't really have the accident?

More info please.

Conspiracy: the plot to stop the Kennedys by Matthew Smith

adding this old thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x205847#205875

OK...

By what mechanism do you suggest these people managed to get Kennedy to drive off a bridge? If they were trying to kill him, there are much more effective ways to do it. If they were only trying to frame him, well, they wouldn't do it by putting him in a situation that could easily have been fatal. And John Dean calling it a "bear trap" is not really evidence of anything. It certainly looked like the end of his Presidential ambitions.

And if you are serious about discussing this, do some homework first. I have no desire to waste my time trying to convince you. Been down that road many times here - especially with shills from the opposing side...

That's not paranoid or anything. :eyes:

Think I'll skip the "homework," thanks.

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Air bags didn't exist at all back then, seat belts were quite optional. He could have been easily concussed and unable to make rational decisions at the time. We simply don't know what the circumstances were then and we feed into right wing mythology if we assume the "facts" they spew about the incident.

He returned to the party, brought friends back to the scene with him. He told his friends he would report the incident. He returned to his hotel and even complained about noise from a party. The next day, he was confronted by his friends about not reporting it. He made phone calls to other friends seeking advice. He didn't report the accident until it was clear the car and body had been discovered.

These don't strike me as the actions of a concussed individual. In fact, in retrospect, "panicked" is also inaccurate. They seem like the actions of a man who has a great deal to lose, hoping to evade responsibility. And I am certainly not a right winger, nor do I even feel judgmental about it. It's perfectly natural for people to try to get out of trouble if they can.

You said it. Now if the others would wake up!

Which I assume may be fate of this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=6398405

would be a more apt comparison. Cheney was just lucky the guy didn't die.