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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:36 PM
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MIJN GOD! The Kennedy Family has gone through hell and back again!
I mean - besides JFK and RFK's deaths... You've got...

* four aircraft crashes (Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr., Kathleen Kennedy, Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, Jr.)
* a fatal skiing accident (Michael LeMoyne Kennedy)
* a fatal drug overdose (David Anthony Kennedy)
* a failed prefrontal lobotomy on Rose Marie Kennedy, carried out in the hope of calming the young woman's violent outbursts but resulting in severe mental retardation

Add to that EMK's kid's leg cancer. and another Kennedy's being Bi-Polar (not sure the name - I apologize)

They may have had cash - but there are some serious tragedies there...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:41 PM
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1. Kara's cancer
And I really don't know what all routine illnesses of Bobby's kids.

And then there's Michael Skakel and the other seedier problems.

I don't know how they keep getting up and carrying on, I really don't.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:43 PM
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3. They're survivors
The real thing...not just the Hollywood version...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:42 PM
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2. And I suppose that's why so many identify with them. They had lives as
difficult as the rest of ours in many ways.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:45 PM
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4. True
I've had it pretty good actually, as has my family

On my dad's side there have been some tragedies - but nothing near theirs

On my mom's side it's been OK.



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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:52 PM
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5. Several of the tragedies were due to Kennedy reckless behavior
and WWII. Remember the Suliivans that lost five sons in one day in the war.

Large families over several generations usually seem to be hit hard hit hard because of the numbers.

The Kennedy's had some nasty problems but so does everyone else.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:02 PM
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6. Doesn't matter - a tragedy is a tragedy
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:05 PM
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7. No one here has ever said that another's tragedy outweighs all others...
but the truth for today is that a good man, a caring man, a compassionate american who cared about us instead of simply his close friends was lost to us...people are mourning if you don't like the way that they are doing such in how they are expressing themselves that today is surely not your day to be a du perhaps in a couple of days you will find it more to your liking...
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:22 PM
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11. Good point. Time to cool it for a while.
Edited on Sat Aug-29-09 08:23 PM by virgogal
Ted and I were both born in Boston in the same year,1932,and I've been a Massachusetts resident the entire time and have been following his life and career for all of my 77 years.

I too have seen a lot and experienced tragedy, so I'm feeling a tad testy this evening.

I just saw Ted as a human being---no more,no less.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:25 PM
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12. I can understand that completely...and by living there than you know more than most of this country
just how much he did care about those that were not blessed with his wealth and station in life..he gave, and gave and gave again..and never once did he himself cry to us that he deserved more sympathy for the tragedies that he and his family and close friends had experienced..it was one of the many qualities that endeared me to him early early on..

and just so you know..and I know you do know that he would completely understand why you said what you said...peace..
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:10 PM
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8. Reckless behavior?! Is that how you classify volunteering for
a dangerous mission during wartime. To me that is courage and heroism. Politic assassinations--maybe you consider seeking political office reckless behavior. I'm glad the Kennedy brothers held a different view. Maybe if a Kennedy who was a heavy smoker developed lung cancer that I would consider risky behavior as a cause but bone cancer in a robust young boy?

The Kennedy family suffered more than its share of tragedy. It is a pity you can't see it.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:14 PM
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9. For God's sake.not the war deaths.
The lobotomy,the skiing accident,and JFK Jr's accident could have been avoided.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:28 PM
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13. I had posted "several" were reckless and you singled out the ones that
weren't reckless.

Jeesh !
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:19 PM
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10. Oh yes, gosh, if only John F Kennedy hadn't been so ...
'reckless', he would not have been assassinated. And Bobby, gee, another assassination caused by 'reckless' behavior no doubt. Killed in a plane crash while serving one's country, well, damn, Joe and Kathleen should not have been so 'reckless'. And Teddy, well, shoot, we all know it was his 'reckless' behavior that caused the plane crash there.

Just in case you don't 'get it', this is sarcasm.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:51 PM
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14. I have seven uncles
Four of them served in WWII, one in WWII and Korea, and another in the Coast Guard.

They used to climb from one car to the other traveling 50 mph down the highway.

Some of them could probably drink Teddy under the table.

They all lived to at least their 70s, some into their 90s and still alive today. None of us kids had any childhood diseases or traumas. My father lost a wife at a young age, but that's the only real out of the ordinary tragedy I can remember.

There is absolutely no rhyme or reason to the trials and tribulations various families face, but the Kennedys have most certainly had more than their share.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 09:23 PM
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15. A little off topic,but your uncles sound like my kind of guys. :-)
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