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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 07:15 PM
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Apparently, in Sedalia Missouri evolution is an anti-God religion
The marching band of Smith-Cotton High School had t-shirts made up to match the theme of their playlist: "Brass Evolutions". The logo was the familiar monkey-to-man panorama... which caused parents to lose their shit. Assistant Superintendent Brad Pollitt had the shirts confiscated.

Pollitt said the district is required by law to remain neutral where religion is concerned.

If the shirts had said ‘Brass Resurrections’ and had a picture of Jesus on the cross, we would have done the same thing,” he said.

Band parent Sherry Melby, who is a teacher in the district, stands behind Pollitt’s decision. Melby said she associated the image on the T-shirt with Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution.

“I was disappointed with the image on the shirt.” Melby said. “I don’t think evolution should be associated with our school.”
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“It’s not like we are saying God is bad,” sophomore band member Denyel Luke said. “We aren’t promoting evolution.”
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Sedalia School District 200 Board of Education member Michael Stees said it was unfortunate the T-shirt design was misconceived and he hopes the band can just move forward.

http://www.sedaliademocrat.com/news/0px-18740-span-font.html

Every day brings new stories of kids getting their educations fucked over by theocratic yahoos. I never imagined the 21st century was going to be like this.


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 07:24 PM
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1. “I don’t think evolution should be associated with our school,” said a teacher.
Edited on Sun Aug-30-09 07:26 PM by aquart
I'm simply going to point out that Jesus had no opinion whatsoever on Genesis, a book of the Torah written by and for Jews. Neither Darwin nor evolution bother the Jews.

On edit: I don't think Christians should be allowed to read the Old Testament. It upsets them.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 07:33 PM
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5. Lol
Your edit :thumbsup:
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 08:00 PM
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8. That is the greatest comeback to religious non-sense of all time.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 08:54 PM
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10. Let's just say it ....Most don't have the intelligence to interpret the Old Testament.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:10 PM
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21. If you want to make fundamentalist heads explode
Tell them that the history of Christianity and western civilization is dependent on a woman with her ass in the air. Then tell them where to find the Book of Ruth.
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Mythbuster Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:52 PM
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23. Love the edit! n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 07:26 PM
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2. And they aren't doing a very good job of educating their kids either
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 07:31 PM
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3. Geesh
One third proficient in math, one third proficient in communication arts... and under the thumb of religious hardcases.

Those kids are sooo boned.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 07:52 PM
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6. And....
That is such a good thing!
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:40 PM
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19. Not making AYP is a fairly common situation in American Schools.
True enough they should be more worried about educational outcomes than offending the religiously insane in their schools. The one third who somehow believe their religious beliefs should be imposed on everyone else seem to have a disproportionate influence on school boards and administration.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 07:32 PM
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4. Total fuckwads.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 07:55 PM
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7. "I don't think Science should be a part of our school." Why didn't they just say that? nt
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 08:41 PM
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9. Evolution should not be associated with school
In the same way that vaccines should not be associated with medicine. :crazy:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 09:01 PM
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11. The Stupid, IT BURNS!!!
:banghead:
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 09:09 PM
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12. 2009. Holy Fucking Shit.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 09:31 PM
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13. "Brass Resurrections", LOLOL!
Somebody, get a design on this board, stat!

:rofl:
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 09:33 PM
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14. Those quotes are frightening!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 09:51 PM
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15. W. T. F. ??? !!! ??? n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 09:56 PM
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16. Ok who is holding back on the funds for the Darwin Temple
:banghead:

There are days the stupid is just a spectacle.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:11 PM
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17. "....he hopes the band can just move forward." You mean like ....evolve.


Saying that a school should not be involved with
evolution is like saying it shouldn't be involved
with mathematics or physics or even more to the
point ....... biology.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:31 PM
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18. How long was it between the invention of Christianity and the abandonment of Earth gods?
Edited on Sun Aug-30-09 10:33 PM by imdjh
Seriously, for comparison purposes put a replacement religion up against the old religion. Christianity arguably started in the year thirty, but let's be a little more serious about it and date it to the first official date which is something like 313 AD. Beowulf is about 300 years later, Arthur about 300 years after that, St Margaret The Exile comes along before we really consider Europe to be Christian, and even that is debatable.

So it took more than six hundred years to laugh down, mock, humiliate, and torture people out of believing in garden faeries, wood nymphs, gods of thunder and lightning, and magical serpents, well maybe I'm getting carried away here.

As inexplicable as it is, it will be some time before these people surrender their childlike delusions, and it's because they are willful delusions. These people are fighting for their right to believe the ridiculous without challenge, the same way any parent might defend his right to keep Santa Claus going for as long as he can, in the name of keeping magic and innocence alive. But it's also about control.

And still we have people demanding respect for other old religions while denouncing the mainstream ones. What they hell is that about? Do they honestly think there is something better about believing in some ancient American bullshit over some ancient African bullshit or ancient Asian bullshit?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:49 PM
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20. I'd like to think that my kid's school is a little more enlightened
But I can't say the same for the parents. I've met a few that would foam at the mouth about something like this. :banghead:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:33 PM
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22. What's especially silly is that it was a marching band.
I did high school band, college band, and DCI (Drum Corps International, Madison Scouts, 1994), and so I can say I qualify as a albeit former expert.

Marching drills evolve over the course of the show. One set seamlessly moves into another- you could say, "evolves". In fact, it's an example of what they claim actual evolution lacks- namely, every transition, from moment to moment.

These people would have been livid over Phantom Regiment's 2008 show. (<-- Part 1 - Part Two link is here)
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:34 AM
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24. First things first: Pollitt should pay for this out of his own pocket
Pollitt said the district would now have to absorb the cost of the T-shirts — $700 — that would have been paid for by the band parents. Pollitt said an anonymous donor had originally planned to pay half the cost, but declined after the evolution image was placed on the shirts. However, the donor does plan to fund half the price of the new T-shirts.

http://www.sedaliademocrat.com/news/0px-18740-span-font.html


Then, the ignorant bastard should be fired for not having the brain power of Homo erectus. And then made to retake his entire education, from kindergarten upwars, since science, English, and civics obviously passed the fucker by completely.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:40 AM
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25. Welcome back to the 1500's.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:50 AM
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26. (facepalm)
Science is considered a religion now in certain circles? Yikes.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:51 AM
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27. Missouri is home to lots of the righteous and holy ignorant and proud of it dumfucks.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:19 AM
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29. This state, sadly, just seems to get redder as the rest of America leans blue . . .
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 09:19 AM by hatrack
Freaking pathetic and embarrassing.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:51 AM
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30. I lived in St. Joseph, MO from 1988-1994. Enough for me!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 12:20 PM
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32. Hey it's Sedalia
I gave up on that town years ago. Now I just drive through as quicly as possible. LOL
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:58 AM
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28. Thanks for posting this
I encourage people to register on the Sedalia Democrat's Web site and make comments on the story.

:kick:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 12:13 PM
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31. Can't wait until these nuts get to heaven and learn that
God set evolution in motion.

Seriously, why do they see an absolute break between belief in God and evolution? It's not as if God couldn't have done it that way. Isn't God all powerful?

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