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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:26 AM
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Heat forms toxic substance in corn syrups
Heat forms toxic substance in corn syrups

TUCSON, Aug. 31 (UPI) -- U.S. Department of Agriculture scientists say they've discovered heat forms a potentially harmful substance in high-fructose corn syrup often fed to honey bees.

The study led by Blaise LeBlanc and Gillian Eggleston of the USDA's Carl Hayden Bee Research Center in Tucson showed heat can produce a potentially toxic substance, hydroxymethylfurfural, which might kill honeybees and endanger human health.

High-fructose corn syrup is fed to honey bees to increase reproduction and honey production, but it's also used as a sweetener in some soft drinks and various other human foods, the researchers said.

LeBlanc and Eggleston said that when exposed to high temperatures, the corn syrup can form the toxic substance and might be a factor in Colony Collapse Disorder, a mysterious disease that has killed at least one-third of the U.S. honeybee population.

http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2009/08/31/Heat-forms-toxic-substance-in-corn-syrups/UPI-82371251734357/
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:29 AM
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1. They're feeding that toxic shit to BEES??
How long have they been doing that? There's definitely a connection to all the bee colonies dropping dead :(

Furthermore, that means there's probably a lot of toxic honey out there. Just great....... use a natural sweetener to avoid high fructose corn poison, end up getting high fructose corn poison anyway.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:33 AM
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2. Hey, Sebastian....
Did you know that honey already has a high concentration of fructose in it anyway?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:34 AM
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3. Natural bee processed fructose
not chemically altered Monsatan fructose.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:35 AM
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4. Fructose is fructose.
Doesn't matter where it comes from.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:50 AM
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9. Not really - read the paper:
...

Previous studies have shown that metals can catalyze the formation of HMF (13). Therefore, the levels of metals that could occur in HFCS as a result of manufacture or storage were determined by inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry (ICP-MS). Finally, as a possible practical solution to commercial beekeepers who want to minimize the formation of HMF, the effects of the addition of industrial bases such as lime, potash, and caustic soda to neutralize the formation of HMF were also investigated.

...

http://pubs.acs.org/stoken/presspac/presspac/full/10.1021/jf9014526?cookieSet=1
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:55 AM
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10. And?
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:43 AM
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7. Routine to put out sugar water for honey bees during nectar dearth.
The big commercial apiaries (thousands of hives) use it for the same reason it's dumped in so many other things; it's cheap and easy to use.

If you looking for safe honey, check for local hobbyists and backyard beekeepers. Most know about corn syrup (this isn't new information. It's been known in the game for a couple of years) and won't use it.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:49 AM
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8. Sure...
Haven't you noticed how much more obese bees have become over the past couple of decades?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:28 PM
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11. Well, seeing as I'm allergic, I try not to get that close to bees.
But I appreciate the work they do, all the same.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:35 AM
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5. Feeding HFCS to bees makes as much biological sense as feeding fish to cats
and prime rib to horses. Oy.

They fed them SUGAR syrup for decades if not centuries with no trouble.

Glad now that I have avoided that crap for the most part over the years.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:37 AM
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6. So it's more profitable to feed bees corn syrup
than to let them produce their own food? Unbelievable...
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