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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:35 PM
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Imagine that you got your dream job
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 02:39 PM by SoCalDem
and every day at work, the guy you replaced, all his friends, and everyone who tried out for your job, are there..in your face, criticizing your efforts. They have their friends writing articles and are posting them on the bulletin boards at work, in your neighborhood, and in the papers, about how awful you are at your job..how you did not deserve the job...how much better ANY one of them would be at the job, how much better the previous guy was at the job..

and yet the job is an important one... a job that needs undivided attention, and as few distractions as possible...

could be the head of surgery at a major hospital

or principle at a school

or manager of a nuclear power plant

or fire chief

or any job really..

I've been around a very long time, and I have NEVER EVER EVER seen the likes of what Cheney & his pals are doing..and how the press is carrying the water for them.

In case they have not noticed, the STORY here is the fact that the previous administration is MEDDLING, and trying to UNDERMINE their legally elected successors.

Gore & Clinton did not trash talk Bush..Carter did not trash talk Reagan.. Ford did not trash talk Carter..

Nixon was seen as a tragic figure and was let off the hook once he was out of office, and pretty much ignored.

This is dangerous. It's dangerous to our president, to our international standing, and to our whole government.

We are devolving into Banana Republic territory, where "formers" are berated, demonized and in some cases "disappeared".
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:37 PM
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1. Rec'd. I agree totally. They are dangerous, and no one seems to care. nt
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:40 PM
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2. a "Banana Republic"

That is what we are starting to look like to the world.

:applause:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:49 PM
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3. Cheney and his sock puppet were despised worldwide
so I don't think his trash talk is going to damage Obama internationally.

Unfortunately, it's also legal.

What is really unprecedented is the media access that criminal is getting.

Cheney is terrified and trying to do everything to present himself in the best light before the legal shit hits the fan. Part of that is throwing poo at his successors.

I don't think it's going to work. I think the more people see of that horrible man, the better. I think it's going to backfire.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:59 PM
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4. but bush & cheney & the gang did trash-talk clinton/gore one their way IN
so they're rotten people coming and going.

but what else is new.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:02 PM
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6. To be fair, the incoming admin (of the opposite party)
often "uses" the flaws & errors of the previous admin, to justify changes they propose, and that's different, because there is a RECORD, all laid out for them, that shows the flaws ..

This is sour grapes..on steroids..with a whopping dose of hemlock..:grr:
and it's wasting precious time.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:29 PM
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10. yes and no. it's true that the previous administration's record is a target of fingerpointing.
but i never heard an administration complain that the previous administration didn't take out the trash and removed all the "w" keys or anything remotely like that until shrub/dick.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:44 PM
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12. That was probably a Rove Co. production
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 03:44 PM by SoCalDem
:puke:..

and of course even though it was debunked, the media still "reports" it as fact:puke:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:05 PM
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7. Every incoming president trash-talks the incumbents of the other party
I heartily agree that Cheney should STFU and take his lumps, but he's making his own bed. Frankly, I've been pleasantly surprised that W has been keeping to himself, but then it's not like he was the big thinker in the last administration.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:07 PM
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8. Bushes have always let others do their dirty work
It's a role he's comfortable with.. He'll just watch tv and schlepp around with his "son" Barney, and be happy as a clam:)
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:25 PM
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9. Zzzzz...so Cheney is just a poor helpless victim of W?
Whatever.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:43 PM
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11. didn't say he was a victim..
just that Bushes are comfortable in just hanging back..they don't do any heavy-lifting:)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:02 PM
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5. I'm imagining that I have bazillions of dollars, and I am buying
all the airtime available, blanketing the airways with the excerpt of Cheney's response to the reporter telling him the majority of the American people don't think the war in Iraq is worth fighting. "So?"

I'm playing it as much as $$$ would allow. Over. And over. And over.

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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:51 PM
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13. Well, I remember during the Clinton presidency, that fat idiot talk show character,
you know his pill popping name, would constantly trash Mr. Clinton. The tub of lard had a thing where he would announce "day 231 of amer'ca held hostage." By their own elected official?
So it's just more of the usual insanity, stupidity, idiocy, whatever you want to call it.
dc
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:19 PM
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14. This is a bit different.. Radio yakkers have always targeted
presidents they don;t like, but the previous admin is usually silent..at least for a while..
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:25 PM
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15. Obama's a wuss
He's bringing this upon himself by not smacking down the rethuglicans. They are taking his graciousness as weakness and President Obama is going to learn the hard way that there is no moving forward without taking care of the past first.

Obama's reauthorization of Secret Service protection for Cheney was a typical wuss move. Obama has all the power of the Imperial Presidency built up by W. and yet he his busy bending over without lube in the name of bipartisanship.

He needs to take the biggest bully on the block and knock him on his ass. Cheney hauled in front of a war crimes tribunal should do the trick.
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