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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:44 AM Original message |
Look, I find the Duggars decisions and lifestyle as mindboggling as anyone else here... |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ask yourself six questions in an OP? |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Sometimes the internal dialog is more interesting. |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. I thought the style of the OP suitable for the points brought up. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. Child Abuse |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Then the proper authorities should be contacted. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. How so? |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
126. -1 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
193. hardly. you aren't the first or last word on what constitutes child abuse |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:18 AM Response to Reply #193 |
279. As a fundy survivor, fundy beliefs should be categorized as abusive. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
233. Not even close. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. They should adopt |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. You should tell everyone what they should do. That would be awesome. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. the world would be a much better place if everyone did as I wished |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
87. I wouldn't want the Duggars or anyone to adopt if their hearts were not in it. |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
89. As a single parent who has adopted 4 teenagers, I can say they should not adopt |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
92. LOL! |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
142. +100 |
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GhostOfMollyIvins (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #142 |
295. rich from u |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
245. Why isn't she allowed to have an opinion about a family who agrees to share their |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
5. When your eldest kids are raising your youngest kids. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Hmmmm... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Nonstop? I watched my little sister...but it wasn't nonstop. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Yeah... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. and you didn't go to school? |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
254. The Duggars themselves have said, and it's been documented, that every time |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I think YOY is concerned with the degree to which the older children are involved. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Got it in one. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
61. OK... |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. I don't know. |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
122. And it's just the GIRL children, too. Boys get to be boys, girls get to be little adults |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. And that is precisely what I have against the Quiverfull movement. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #122 |
235. The older BOYS aren't expected to do any of the cooking, cleaning, childrearing - they get to go |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
77. i don't watch the show either.... but i have to believe there is some degree of |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
73. It was your brother who ws abused and exploited, not you. |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
82. That's a couple hours a day though. |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #82 |
109. If all that is true, then it is child abuse in my opinion. n/t |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #109 |
131. But here's the real child abuse: |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #131 |
185. Omg, that almost needs a Warning label |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:19 PM Original message |
Pretty standard midwest farm fare. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #109 |
139. Sounds like planet abuse to me |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #139 |
147. Then the planet will eventually fight back. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #147 |
290. the human element bugs me less |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #82 |
192. For the girls at least.... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
255. I saw that Supernanny show! The poor girls had to put the kids to bed at night |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. Not quite, but having to schedule meetings with your parents is getting there (nt) |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
107. It's been done that way in large families for thousands of years |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Thousands of years ago rape was considered foreplay. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. It's still not child abuse |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. HYSTERICAL!@#K!@#ONE!!!!1!! |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. You should take a look at kids who have had the shit beat out of them, |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. Abuse comes in different flavors. Congrats on not figuring that out. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Still - no word on how the Duggar children are being abused by having to look after each other |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. So very "telling"...{snicker} |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. Yeah, it's now - I can read a calendar |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. You can reply to me in the main thread. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #107 |
189. So you're okay with the girls being saddled with all the work? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
143. history of the world = child abuse, then. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
144. Then a whole lot of working class children are victims of "child abuse" as you term it. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #144 |
161. Well if you want to take what I said at face value sure... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #161 |
234. Quite so. (n/t) |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
173. Not abusive |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
247. Yep. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
6. Don? |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
7. Yeah they're free to burnden the Earth |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I'm not saying you're wrong. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
9. I agree with you. Plus, so very few women would even want more than a dozen kids that it's |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
11. They actually as crazy as they seem dont exploit their kids. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
111. Agree with you. I think most people here have the wrong impression of them. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #111 |
133. Read this: |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Is there a source for that??? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #137 |
141. I saw it on a show about them. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
132. They are exploiting their kids... at least the female ones. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. And I'll reserve my right to laugh, point fingers and ridicule... |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Fair enough, that right is yours to reserve. |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
15. If they are good parents- then I have no issues with their CHOICE |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Having never watched the show, I can't speak to that either way. |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
85. True- nor should there be |
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eeyore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
17. I think there should be tax consequences for them |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Call your congressman. |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. What's irresponsible about having more than 4 kids? (nt) |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. If you can provide for them physically, emotionally, and educationally? |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Overpopulation? n/t |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Do we currently have a limit to the number of children any single couple is allowed to have? |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
159. I absolutely agree |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #159 |
162. Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree. |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Large families are more apt to get hit with the alternative minimum tax. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
80. i don't like that idea. maybe have the child credit only go to so many, but to |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. No one is basing the decision to have or not have more children on tax credits |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
149. i'm not saying they are. what i am saying is that we shouldn't be penaizing people for |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #149 |
178. Doh- I was at work and totally misread your post |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #149 |
236. We do it all the time |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
262. Over 6 billion "Miracles" are enough |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
23. It's a lifestyle choice |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
79. I agree- well said. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. I have a great memory of an extremely fertile Irish Catholic auntie |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
123. I agree, those older Duggar girtls will probably contracept assiduously. |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #123 |
256. If they ever even have time to meet boys much less have sex. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. I applaud them! |
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cleverusername (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
30. Girls without any opportunties |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Like I said, I have serious issues with the Quiverfull movement. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. +1. n/t |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
32. How many future kleptos, pyros, alcoholics and depressives are they raising? |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Hard to say? |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
140. Why? The daughters won't be able to "live it". |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. Maybe. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #145 |
268. I wonder about the psychological dynamic of extremely large families like that. |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
168. Time will tell, friend. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #168 |
172. Suits me. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
33. So in your opinion... people can either pass a law about stuff they find distasteful, or else STFU? |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. No, but I think we should think before we attack. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Who's meddling? |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. And yet I think you'd rightfully take offense if someone ranted about your sex life |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Ranting about their sex life is distasetful, sure. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
223. Exactly. |
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Pangolin2 (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
112. If I sleep with my boyfriend it impacts nobody else. Replacing 2 humans with 18 |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #67 |
283. If my sex life were plastered all over television I don't think I'd have much right to |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
34. I agree with you. The Duggars creep me out also, |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. And the reason for that... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Many organized religions keep an "out breed" policy in text but in so much nicer words. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Love is a subjective thing |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. So is wearing fur, or eating veal... and people have the right to criticize that as well. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. I don't think I said that. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Sorry, I surely did not mean to imply that they don't love their kids. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
184. I did some reading at lunch today about the Quiverfull movement. |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Thank you. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. So, your crimson majesty, what do you suggest? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. "If we cannot live and let live, then what to we do?" |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Ironic maybe, but still a valid question I think? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. What do you mean "what ought to be done"? Have they committed a crime? |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
45. I actually kind of agree that they have a right to have as many as they want. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Precisely. |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Now imagine how fucked up China would be if they had instituted a Quiverful policy instead. n/t |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. They actually did have that policy prior to the one-child rule. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
129. Um, China DID have a massive famine |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. They were facing another, population induced one. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #135 |
146. funny, china had famines every ten years or so for the two hundred years prior to the revolution |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #146 |
157. Funny, I'm still concerned about overpopulation and wish others would be too. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. A catastrophe that may be inevitable anyway. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #158 |
204. I think you are probably right. eom |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:09 AM Response to Reply #157 |
277. population isn't growing infinitely. nor exponentially. growth rate has been |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
53. Her 19th child and she's only age 42? |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. A set of Ginsu knives. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
56. Stop tax deductions after 2 children. After 3 children, add taxes. Free contraception... |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Agreed, and your coercive measures are rational. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
64. We need limits. No more than three births per parent. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
66. Their right to have as many children as they want doesn't silence my right to speak out against it. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Fair enough. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
71. We do not have children |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
214. That's my concern. I love kids, I've worked with kids professionally and I'm a great mom, |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #214 |
265. Here's another thought |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #265 |
266. Yeah. She's not only a decade older than me, she's living on tater tots and mayo. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
72. i believe that they have every right to have all the kids they want. i don't know why |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. But it keeps the important parts from getting singed. |
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parasearchers (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
76. Whats a Duggar? |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
78. And stupid people, like the Duggars, |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Sadly that's natural selection for you. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
81. I agree that they have the right to live their lives as they choose. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
83. For me, Pro Choice means the choice NOT to have children... |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Certainly it's piggish. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. Reproductive freedom also comes with the assumption...perhaps |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. And when responsibility is abused, it must be addressed with coercive measures. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #101 |
209. I'm not calling for regulation of anyone's womb |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:12 AM Response to Reply #83 |
278. apply that logic to the us v. the third world. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
84. I just wish they paid some taxes to the feds and state. With that many exemptions, doubt that they |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. Indeed, I take serious issue with anyone having such a lifestyle subsidized by the rest of us. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
93. The Jackie Coogan Law needs more teeth |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Indeed, I see no problem with that. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. These parents see their kids as the "family income", and it's disgusting. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
95. The Duggars are murdering the Earth |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. I think the Earth can deal with overpopulation. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Famine sucks who wants that? |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. I don't necessarily want more people. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Japan had a period of ZPG centuries ago |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #106 |
116. That's not my point. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #106 |
136. It's a rather odd paradox |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #98 |
258. What kind of Earth will live through climate change, pollution, toxic land, water, and air. |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #95 |
115. The Earth can handle 19 children |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
97. Those kids' taxes will be paying for my social security |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Now we just have to hope they don't all end up tax cheats... |
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maxpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
104. Irresponsible on an already over burdened planet |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. The planet will take care of itself. Mass extinction is nature's way of starting over. |
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maxpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #105 |
246. I am |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
119. And it's MY right to tell you & people like them that they are selfish assholes who don't give a |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. How exactly does my arguing for reproductive freedom make me a selfish asshole? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Wake the hell up. You are part of the problem too. nt |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. As we are both human (at least I hope we are) you would seem to be too. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #130 |
285. What's selfish is people like you & the Duggers using up more resources than others. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #119 |
138. What kind of tax are you proposing? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #138 |
286. Anything to wake these people up to the destruction they are causing! nt |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #286 |
288. I ask again. |
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Dogtown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
134. Can't find fault with your logic. |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
148. I wouldn't have a problem with limiting the number of kids people can have |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. How many people are having litters of children though? |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. Democrats can have 4 - Republicans 1 |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #150 |
154. And more importantly, |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #154 |
170. I KNOW this will not happen here. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Laudable goals, I heartily support them. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #170 |
176. All that sounds great. |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #176 |
227. we can start by educating and providing birth control - that will help |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. The problem, if you subscribe to this theory, |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #151 |
174. Famine and disease will take care of things eventually |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #174 |
177. Agreed. n/t |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
152. Hmmm... I find it hard to believe that this is a "lifestyle" choice. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #152 |
156. delete |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #152 |
160. Do religious fanatics count? |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #160 |
166. Exactly my point about "truly willing" this woman is brainwashed. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. One man's choice is another man's brainwashing. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #166 |
197. Sez you. |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #152 |
180. My brother and his wife have 6 |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #152 |
195. Um, wouldn't Mrs. Duggar make you eat those Thom McCanns? |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
155. I agree, as strange and disgusting as what they're doing is to me, it's still her choice. nt |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
163. Most folks (left/right) are not really pro-choice, they just like to pretend they are |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Sadly, that would seem to be the case. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #165 |
169. Not just a woman's right |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #163 |
175. Oh they can do what they want |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #163 |
181. There's a difference between judgment and legislation. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. "right up to the point where we try to create legislation... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. The very important difference being that neither that poster ... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #186 |
196. It's similar to guys here that can't stand any criticism of porn |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #196 |
281. LOL... yes, excellent analogy. |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #183 |
202. ...up to but not INCLUDING legislation. That is her point, which I don't |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #183 |
228. If taken completely out of context |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #228 |
264. Look, I read your post and that's what it looked like. |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #163 |
182. I am stunned by the amount of posts I see that are against a woman's right to control her own body. |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #182 |
205. I'm stunned by the number of people who seem to forget that her daughters have |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #182 |
237. I'm stunned that people can't see they're making a mockery out of their kids |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #163 |
187. choice comes with responsibility |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #187 |
208. Amen to that. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #163 |
190. Supporting the right of people to have choices doesn't mean I have to approve of them |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #190 |
213. I would agree with you on that |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #213 |
219. I'm not for railing against people for their choices |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #163 |
199. So where do the daughters come in? What about their choice to perhaps be children |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #199 |
210. And this is new? |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #210 |
221. Families used to send their children off to work in factories, too. Doesn't mean |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #221 |
230. Exactly! |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #230 |
293. Of course not. It's just women so it's romanticized. eom |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #199 |
215. I have never watched the TV show- are the daughters all doing mommy's work? |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #215 |
220. The sons seem to do relatively okay, except for the fact that they are raised by |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
164. I agree |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
179. Who's paying for all of those kids? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #179 |
198. They have books and a TV show. And a website for the curious: |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
188. Thank you for this... Pro-choice means |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #188 |
238. Doesn't mean you get to be free from having your choices criticized |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
191. I'm pro-choice for *ALL* the women in the family, including the minors who now |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #191 |
194. Well said... it amazes me that some are trying to equate criticism |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #194 |
200. Thanks. No one seems to think about those kids when they applaud mom and dad |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #194 |
217. thank you for pointing this out |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #191 |
201. something that people either forget, or don't know... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #191 |
203. I don't think they are alone in having older children help with the younger. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #203 |
206. Being Catholic and back in that day |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #206 |
218. I'm 59 and Catholic; I know all about "back in the day." |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #218 |
284. Then why not admit the difference? |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #203 |
207. Helping and full-time care are different things. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #203 |
211. Ethel Kennedy doesn't even escape |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #191 |
222. Thank you. |
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asksam (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
212. A Q for those who bring up the overpopulation argument... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #212 |
225. I reject your entire premise |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
216. The Duggars are Republicans.... |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
224. Asbestos underwear? Are you a Mormon? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
226. The daughters are being treated as servants, denied opportunities. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
229. think about it next time you're in rush hour traffic |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #229 |
231. Or at the mall. eom |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
232. Something to think about-- |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #232 |
248. Very well said. |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
239. I agree.. forced sterilization |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #239 |
240. Who has argued for forced sterilization here? Anyone? |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #240 |
241. relax kitty |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #241 |
242. And others are posting their opinions as well. |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #242 |
243. I don't disagree with that |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #243 |
244. It's your right, but it's not all about YOU. |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #244 |
249. Actually... when It is |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #249 |
269. Yeah, it's all about you. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #239 |
259. Bizarre how your mind flew into "forced sterlization" when responsibility and morality would do. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
250. You have some strange logic. |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #250 |
251. No one ever SAID you cannot be critical. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #251 |
252. Yea I've read your post. What is your point? |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #252 |
253. Goodness. |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #252 |
272. If they're not going to abort, why would they do pre-natal testing? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
257. Let's go over it one more time: There are too many human beings on the planet. |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #257 |
260. Anti-choice people say the same thing--they don't believe in choice because it is "immoral." nt |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #260 |
261. Anti-choice people want laws changed. Pro-choice people want minds changed. |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #261 |
263. You don't know that she is forcing her daughters to raise her children. nt |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #263 |
271. Sure looks like she and her husband are forcing them. |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #271 |
273. If the daughters are being abused, they should be taken away |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #273 |
274. I think they should be taken away from those fundie lunatics. eom |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #263 |
275. Actually, I do. The family has said so. |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #260 |
276. Nobody is bombing maternity wards |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
267. Who are the Duggars and what have they done? |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #267 |
282. They've committed the dual sins of being very religious and having lots of children |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #282 |
294. Right. Because criticizing someone means you want to take their rights away. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #294 |
296. So you would accept, without complaint, someone who says, |
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agentS (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
270. The main problem isn't numbers- it is the purpose. |
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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:37 AM Response to Original message |
280. I read about them and wonder.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #280 |
287. I knew many people who were raised in households like that... |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #287 |
291. My older sisters sure weren't. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #291 |
292. About 20 years ago a girl sent a letter to Ann Landers |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
289. I guess what rankled me was the big announcement on Today. |
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