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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 08:42 PM
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Fragment from world's oldest Bible found hidden in Egyptian monastery
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/fragment-from-worlds-oldest-bible-found-hidden-in-egyptian-monastery-1780274.html

My favorite part of this article:

The Bible: A brief history

Although earlier fragments of the Bible have survived the passage of time, the Codex Sinaiticus is so significant because it is by far the most complete. The full text that has been discovered so far contains virtually all of the New Testament and about half of the Old Testament.

But whenever an ancient version of the holy book is found, it often raises questions about the evolution of the Bible and how close what we read today is to the original words of Christ and his early followers.

The Old Testament was written largely in Hebrew (with the odd Aramaic exception) but it is by no means a homogenous entity. Protestant and more recent Catholic versions of the Bible tend to use the Masoretic Text, a variation of the Hebrew Old Testament that was copied, edited and distributed by Jewish Masorete scholars between the 7th and 11th centuries. Earlier Catholic translations and the Greek and Russian Orthodox churches use the Septuagint, an ancient Greek version of the Hebrew text that was translated between the 3rd and 1st centuries BC.

In studying the early history of the New Testament, historians have about 5,650 handwritten copies in Greek on which they can draw, many of which are distinctly different. As Christianity consolidated its power through the first millennia, the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John came to form the key elements of the New Testament.

But other apocryphal writings were discarded along the way. The Shepherd of Hermas, for instance, is a Christian literary work of the 2nd century which appears in the Codex Sinaiticus and was considered part of the Bible by some early Christians but was later expunged. The most well-known apocryphal gospel is that of Thomas, a collection of 114 numbered sayings attributed to Jesus that was discovered in 1945. As it never refers to Jesus as "Christ", "Lord" or the "Son of Man" (and lacks any mention of the miracles attributed to Jesus in the other gospels) it is perhaps not surprising that it never made it into later versions of the Bible.:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 08:48 PM
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1. Its always cool when something ancient is discovered
that puts everything else into a new perspective. Best response to someone who takes the Bible literally is "Which version?"
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 08:51 PM
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2. A fascinating find.
Thanks for the thread, babsbunny.:thumbsup:
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TiredOldMan Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 09:53 PM
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3. Very neat!! Thanks for posting.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 01:14 AM
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4. most of the early folks would have considered a bunch of the bible
blasphemy. And considering it was organized to appease a tyrant and his politics, Constantine, it is lucky to be as reasonable as it is.
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optimal-tomato Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 01:21 AM
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5. Is this the missing parts when Tischendorf...
...tried to buy it in the 1800's, but was too eager, so the monks refused to sell (suspecting it was more valuable than they thought)? I just read Bart Ehrman's book Misquoting Jesus where he talked about how most of the Codex Sinaiticus was burned as trash, then Tischendorf only made it out with about 40 pages.

Always good to see more of history reclaimed from the shadows.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:01 AM
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6. K&R
Thomas Jefferson was alive then?
"But other apocryphal writings were discarded along the way. The Shepherd of Hermas, for instance, is a Christian literary work of the 2nd century which appears in the Codex Sinaiticus and was considered part of the Bible by some early Christians but was later expunged. The most well-known apocryphal gospel is that of Thomas, a collection of 114 numbered sayings attributed to Jesus that was discovered in 1945. As it never refers to Jesus as "Christ", "Lord" or the "Son of Man" (and lacks any mention of the miracles attributed to Jesus in the other gospels) it is perhaps not surprising that it never made it into later versions of the Bible."
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optimal-tomato Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:08 AM
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7. lol
But aside from the great reference to the Jefferson Bible, I thought the Gospel of Thomas was the one that included the story of the young Jesus killing a playmate and creating birds from clay... Maybe that was Philip... hmm... (Doesn't matter.)
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:23 AM
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8. You just sent me on a neat journey
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