CIA doctors face human experimentation claims

Mon May 18, 2009 5:00 AM PST
Their stories are a staple of conspiracy culture: broken men, suffering hallucinations and near-total amnesia, who say they are victims of secret government mind-control experiments. Think Liev Schreiber in The Manchurian Candidate or Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory. Journalists are a favorite target for the paranoid delusions of this population. So is Gordon Erspamer—and the San Francisco lawyer's latest case isn't helping him to fend off the tinfoil-hat crowd. He has filed suit against the CIA and the US Army on behalf of the Vietnam Veterans of America and six former American soldiers who claim they are the real thing: survivors of classified government tests conducted at the Army's Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland between 1950 and 1975. "I get a lot of calls," he says. "There are a lot of crazy people out there who think that somebody from Mars is controlling their behavior via radio waves." But when it comes to Edgewood, "I'm finding that more and more of those stories are true!"

That government scientists conducted human experiments at Edgewood is not in question. "The program involved testing of nerve agents, nerve agent antidotes, psychochemicals, and irritants," according to a 1994 General Accounting Office (now the Government Accountability Office) report (PDF). At least 7,800 US servicemen served "as laboratory rats or guinea pigs" at Edgewood, alleges Erspamer's complaint, filed in January in a federal district court in California. The Department of Veterans Affairs has reported that military scientists tested hundreds of chemical and biological substances on them, including VX, tabun, soman, sarin, cyanide, LSD, PCP, and World War I-era blister agents like phosgene and mustard. The full scope of the tests, however, may never be known. As a CIA official explained to the GAO, referring to the agency's infamous MKULTRA mind-control experiments, "The names of those involved in the tests are not available because names were not recorded or the records were subsequently destroyed." Besides, said the official, some of the tests involving LSD and other psychochemical drugs "were administered to an undetermined number of people without their knowledge."
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The CIA's decision to use military personnel as test subjects followed the court's decision and is an issue Erspamer plans to raise at trial. "Suddenly, they stopped using civilian subjects and said, 'Oh, we can get these military guys for free,'" he says. "The government could do whatever it wanted to them without liability. We want to bring that to the attention of the public, because I don't think most people understand that." (Asked about Erspamer's suit, CIA spokeswoman Marie Harf would say only that the agency's human testing program has "been thoroughly investigated, and the CIA fully cooperated with each of the investigations.")

Erspamer's involvement in the case is deeply personal. His father was a government scientist during
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/05/uncle-sams-human-lab-rats

They experimented on civilians and military personnel. That's why I don't trust them, believe them, like them, or want them near me.

below this morning. Yet, nobody dared respond to my post because it was just too far off the edge.

Really, is anything too far off the edge anymore?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6453324&mesg_id=6453324

I really don't doubt what they might do. I think there are decent people who work hard at the CIA. I also think there are cowboys who try to get away with whatever, and they can when somebody like William Casey or Cheney is running the show.

People were scoffing about what I believed about Bushco for years. Unfortunately, a lot of it was right. I don't even know where the edge is anymore.

It's like there is a map with definite boundaries, and beyond that it says "Here be dragons."

That's the slippery slope we find ourselves riding because everyone thinks they're entitled to break the rules.

THIS is one of those things the Geneva Convention explicitly outlawed.