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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:24 AM Original message |
I have a feeling we have lost the Healthcare debate |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. we will get exactly what was intended all along |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yup- snowballed again |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I've never been snowballed |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. neither have I. I have been a "hater", as they call me, from day |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
44. And likely a "racist" hater, at that. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. pathetic |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. I've long thought this was the case, but I will take a "wait and see" approach, but we have already |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. he's been playing ball with them all along |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. I wish more of the "sky-is-falling" types like you would be willing to put their money where their |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. define sweeping Healthcare reform bill |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. you hearing crickets too? n/t |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Jeesus... you might give me a little more than 4 minutes to respond... LOL... |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. why? you seem to have it all in hand -- can't define it that quickly? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. A) post #27 |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. and the response falls into the retarded group -- definitely NOT sweeping |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Here's how I'd define it |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:42 AM Original message |
any price caps to go with that non-denial section? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
43. Pricing those with pre-existing conditions out of the market, to me, is "denying coverage" |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. you obviousy have never had to deal with insurance companies directly |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Yes... a 42-yr-old married man with 2 children has NEVER dealt with an insurance company |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. And you have NEVER had an insurance company turn you down COLD for coverage |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #27 |
51. Are you truly dulliwtted enough to buy that? |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. +1 |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. What was the bait? What in my post do you NOT think is a good idea? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Oh to be a dreamer |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. and the bill will be absolute shit |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. And it will actually make matters WORSE |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
33. How do you know all this? Are you in the administration? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Yeah, because someone in the administration is going to go around calling what they'll pass shit |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. How do you know that? Can you cite precedent? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Hmmm |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:40 AM Original message |
All BushCo initiated plans. Try again. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
38. You're so up-and-down with your optimism/pessimism that it's amazing you're not throwing up |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I think you would lose your shirt on a bet like that. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. It depends on how willing one is to call whatever ends up passed a sweeping reform |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. True |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. yeah that mandated health insurance will sure be a blessing to the insurance companies |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Define sweeping. I have little doubt that something will be passed, but a lot of doubt that it... |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. it will be a bailout for the health insurance companies and price protection for Pharma |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Agreed |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. So giving up and giving in is your advice? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Is that what I fucking said? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. So, give us your advice, or get off the pot. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. same back atcha dear |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. My advice is the keep up the pressure on the President and your Reps.. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
62. How about I shit on plans that suck instead? |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
46. well, when the president still wants to play in the sandbox with pukes |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. The President has been consistent RE the public option |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. really? Sure.... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
41. My response is in post #27 |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
63. Thanks, I'll take a look. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. It's a mystery. |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
10. Lost the healthcare debate? You can't lose what never happened |
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grassfed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
11. BIG PHARMA RAHM |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
15. Quitting at half-time is a sure way to lose |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I watched Joe Sestak get his ass kicked last night in a debate |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. 70% of the people want a public option |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. And it's being reported consistently that the public option is dead |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. being "reported" by RW news outlets.... NOBODY in the White House has said that |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
49. that's the problem isn't it? The WH cannot seem to GROW A SET |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. That's true, if you ignore everything the WH and Dems have said. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
60. They've only said they favor the Public Option about a million times |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. "Favor" is a demotion from "insist on" |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. suuuure they have |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Ahh, it's been reported huh? |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
70. 70% is laughable. 70% of the people who don't have insurance? |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
45. Despite the number of "news cycles" that have elapsed ... |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
48. We WON the debate |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Got a link for that assertion? |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
54. the people want it, the media wants a fight. i'll go with the people. |
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grassfed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
66. No Public Option because hick bitch Palin will say mean things of facebook |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
67. How can you lose something you never had? |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
71. We're going to get the biggest health reform bill ever passed by Obama. Kennedy and Clinton |
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