Are you getting the H1N1 (swine) flu vaccine?

My immune system is pretty strong but the constant warnings are making me wonder if I should get it?

had some underlying condition or something. it doesn't sound any worse than the regular flu to me.

Those big pharmaceutical companies paid the big bucks to our politicians, and now the politicians
are paying those pharma bosses back by concocting a five-star, terror-based campaign to cajole
you into getting yourself and your children vaccines.

Come on...the corporateers paid top dollar. They deserve billions in profits, and we deserve
vaccines that were rushed through at warp speed. Sure, it's true that the clinical trials
haven't finished yet, and we have no idea what the long-term effects of this vaccine are--but
don't you worry your pretty little noggin.

Just get in line, smile pretty and know that you're supporting our current corporate-centered
quid-pro-quo system of political hell...on a stick.

You could at least TRY to participate. The politicians went to a lot of trouble setting up this
whole thing!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

They did rush the product.

...is this a combination of bird, human and swine flu?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8235231.stm

China approves swine flu vaccine - China has stepped up public health warnings as children return to school


Chinese health authorities have approved a vaccine that they say prevents swine flu with a single dose.
Chinese vaccine maker Sinovac has been given the green light to mass produce the vaccine for the H1N1 flu strain.
The government has said it plans to have enough vaccine to cover 5% of the population by the end of the year.
More than 5,000 cases of swine flu have been confirmed in China. The World Health Organization says the situation in the country is "quite stable".
The vaccine by Sinovac is one of several being developed in China. Experts say more results are needed from other makers to determine whether one dose would be potent enough.
Public health warnings to prevent the spread of swine flu have increased in the last week, as children return to school after the summer break.
A high school in Xin'an county, near Luoyang in Henan province, was closed over the weekend after 80 students were diagnosed with the flu.


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no, i won't be getting the shot.

"it doesn't sound any worse than the regular flu" is not particularly comforting to me.

...than a regular flu--but it's more contagious.

So, many more people catch it--but fewer percentages die from it.

People are worried that it will mutate, and become more lethal. That would be more
dangerous--a highly contagious flu that is lethal.

However, they don't know if this flu will mutate. And if it does mutate, doesn't that mean
that the vaccine they are giving us know will be useless?

Wouldn't you need to make additional vaccine from the more-deadly form of the flu to give people protection from a more
deadly mutated form?

I coughed so hard I cracked a rib. I missed 2 full weeks of work. I had to get a supply preacher because I was sick for the first time in 23 years of ministry. Even after I went back to work, I was told not to do hospital or nursing home visits for another 2 weeks. But, most importantly, I was unbelievably sick. Cough, chills, fever of 102, vomiting, lack of appetite, exhausted, and every square inch of my body ached.

There is no way I'm going through that again if I can avoid it. I am getting any shot they make. Whatever side effects they have can't be worse than the flu.

than the migraine the vaccine gives me.

It is not worse than the regular flu, but since Mrs. AA is great with child the whole family will be ling up asap.

I'm usually the type of person who blows off the flu shot, but my daughter's baby is due in December, and I'd rather err on the side of caution this year.

going crazy scaring people about this.... which just makes me think they are trying to scare people.

since there is not much cross protection. 60,000 dead in the US sounds ok to me!

stop washing your hands after using the bathroom to build up your immune system. ;)

Damn, I miss him.

going on now.

I don't care how many times they squawk "1919! 1919! 1919!".

Until the numbers show that it's more deadly than any other flu, I'm not worried.

I'm sure the pharma companies are very grateful to The Sky Is Falling folks, however.

Reports of half the population getting it doesn't worry you?

About 8 days after the shot I got so dizzy I could hardly walk. After about 30 days it was finally gone.

If it is, I will get it. Even if it's no worse than seasonal flu, it's still worth doing. I can't afford to lose work days due to flu of ANY kind, and as someone over 50 I am now in a higher risk group for complications.

recovery is an unfunded government claim fund, although I have no idea how an unfunded fund is a fund. All other sources of compensation, e.g., insurance, are set off against any recovery.

responsible for any damage. That's a red flag in itself.

The Big Pharma ratz don't give a damn about saving lives, they're just trying to fill their pockets to fight back for lawsuits for Vioxx, etc. They are truly evil!

practicing 'good hygiene' and make sure i am getting enough sleep. if someone is in a particular stress, like grief, i might recommend it. i got sick during my heavy grieving time. i think it was bad sleeping, lack of exercise and stress.

The flu became pneumonia, and I cracked a rib coughing (which is way more painful than it sounds). Don't know when I've been so sick. I'm in and out of hospitals and nursing homes all the time, shake hands with parishioners every week (at least). This year, I'm getting any flu shot they make!

how sick it can make you. I don't ever want to go through that again.

Wild horses couldn't drag me near one of those vaccines.
BHN

If anything the rushed or lack of safety testing is enough for most thinking folks to pass on it. How hard is it to take a lot of VIT D3 and build up the immune system, and have something like Oil of Oregano on hand just in case? Cheap, easy, non-toxic and you don't get damaged or worse!

Swine Flu Immunity May Be Delayed by Vaccine Choice (Update1)
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By Tom Randall

Sept. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Americans may need two vaccine doses instead of one to be immunized against swine flu because officials plan to exclude ingredients used to boost immune responses in shots made by Novartis AG and GlaxoSmithKline Plc.

Novartis AG today reported that a single dose of its vaccine, which relies on a shot-boosting ingredient known as an adjuvant, safely provoked a strong immune response in a trial of 100 healthy volunteers. The formulation favored by the U.S. doesn’t use an adjuvant, and a second vaccine dose is more likely to be required, said Thomas Frieden, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The U.S. paid Novartis, based in Basel, Switzerland, and London-based Glaxo more than $415 million for emergency stockpiles of adjuvant, which isn’t approved by the Food and Drug Administration. Vaccines are slated to arrive in mid- October, a time that health officials say could be the peak of outbreaks. A second dose would need to be given three weeks after the first, delaying immunity.

“We expect that the likelihood of needing two doses of vaccine that’s not adjuvanted is higher than with an adjuvanted vaccine,” Frieden said today in a conference call. “We don’t anticipate that we’ll be using adjuvanted vaccine in most of the scenarios that we anticipate now, though that could change.”

On so many levels.

I'm not at a huge risk of contracting flu.
And I might have to miss a meal to afford it.

But I did get that flu in 1968. Never heard anything about it and didn't know what was wrong with me. Never knew about any vaccine then.

In the strongest terms possible...

during an outbreak. Everybody I know who gets a flu shot ends up getting sick anyway.

I can't remember the last time I had the flu, or a cold, for that matter.

It's never ever had any noticeable side effects at all.

Interesting how your world is 180 degrees out of phase from mine!

I do not believe in vaccines against virus's for obvious reasons.

I plan on taking extra Vit D3 and getting plenty of rest. For starters.

unless you have other underlying conditions or factors which cause you to be deficient.

I know D is the most fashionable cure-all vitamin of the moment but unlike many other vitamins, D is fat soluble (A,D,E&K are your fat soluble vits) and it is retained in the fatty tissues of your body such as adipose, liver, etc. Because of this you can build up toxic levels and things can go south in a hurry and you could end up wishing you had the flu instead.

I actually don't think H1N1 is that big of a deal, at all. Certainly at this point no bigger deal than the regular flu. I get my regular flu shot every year. If the H1N1 vax is reasonably priced, I'll get it too, because being out with flu is a royal pain in the arsewich. I'm going to be exposed to it. I spend 5 days a week with college kids, so I'm interested in avoiding the inconvenience. On the other hand, if the vax is unavailable to me, I'm not going to spend the semester cowering in my attic with duct tape and plastic sheeting either.

is toxic in large amounts. I take a natural form of the D3.(the correct kind for results) It's not as huge a dose as they are rec. The reason to take it is not that it is fashionable or the latest thing. Health is not a fad.

from. All D is fat soluble, all D builds up in your tissues when there is excess. All D is capable of causing you adverse health consequences if too much of it is present in your body. Knowledge based on sound science is not a fad either.

If 10 minutes of sunshine gets you 10,000 units of Vitamin D during summer months in northern climes, the body is actually doing something with it and notions of the toxicity of D are changing. It seems to be used in a lot more ways than we had previously known. That is my understanding of the fellow I heard speak on it though my memory of the details is probably not exact; consider it a ballpark idea. That was the gist of it.

I'm not in any of the categories that will be offered the early rounds so by the time it becomes available to me it will be more of an afterthought.

... and while it was no picnic, it wasn't that bad.

It is pretty contagious though, I caught it from my son at his college, so you all may expect to get it.

The muscle ache is the most painful symptom, but for me, the worst lasted just a couple of days (Saturday and Sunday, of course).

The vaccine just sounds too experimental and of dubious value.

I'm healthy and in my mid 40s - Also, a week out of work and an additional week ill but working put me behind

because I have confidence in my immune system, which has fended off tougher customers than this particular variant in the past. I'll let my injection go to someone who needs it more than I do.

The CDC has determined that I am not worthy and deserving of choosing whether or not I wish to take the vaccine. It will not be made available to me. At least not until the supply has likely been exhausted on other folks deemed more worthy. Fuck the CDC.

:sarcasm:

waste of time, effort and money on vaccine for a virus that mutates faster than Chuck Grassely on health care.

Extra vitamins ain't gonna do shit to protect against this flu. My wife is a doctor and will be heavily exposed, so we both have to protect ourselves.

asthmatic, high risk

since I work in an enclosed area with the public and lots of Mexican nationals too

I'll get one if they offer it at work but i'm not very worried, I figure I have some immunity since I've already had a mild case of it.

we had 5 confirmed cases in my small town and although my case wasn't confirmed, I really think it was the swine flu

I get the shots every year through work, so we'll see.

Hopefully it will remain mild and there will be enough vaccine for those who choose to get the jab.

flu shot. Please hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Take lots of precautions with hand washing. I know these are simple and common sense steps, but every little bit helps. Do you remember our former health and human services secretary Tommy Thompson urged everyone to get chipped for our safety?

Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson has volunteered to get an RFID electronic chip implant to show the world just how safe the new technology is.

Tommy Thompson

The former secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services in President Bush's first term sees it as a potentially life-saving move because the chip will have details of his medical history should he ever be in an accident.

Thompson will be among the first humans to get the chip. Pets have been routinely chipped at pounds and veterinarians' offices in recent years. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=454

If our safty was their real concern, they would'nt pay manufactures hundreds of millions of dollars for a immune boosting componet of the swine flu shot to be stock piled requardless of the fact that the FDA has not approved it? If our safety was really their concern, every American would have access to health care during this swine flu out break.

Just think!