Santa Cruz considers expanded smoking ban (main street running along the beach, more)

The Straight Story

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:21 PM
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Santa Cruz considers expanded smoking ban (main street running along the beach, more)

Santa Cruz considers expanded smoking ban

SANTA CRUZ, Calif.�Santa Cruz is poised to expand outdoor smoking bans to the city's downtown commercial district and the main street running along the beach.

The City Council is set to consider on Tuesday a proposed measure that would also prohibit smoking within 25 feet of commercial doorways, windows and air ducts.

City Councilman Ryan Coonerty says the bans are aimed at cleaning up the streets of cigarette butts and reducing the amount of tobacco smoke in heavily populated areas.

http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_13255359

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CreekDog

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:23 PM
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1. they couldn't make an argument based on reducing cigarette butts

if everyone didn't know they were all there.

some smokers (not all of course) are ruining it for everybody, most notably, polite and non-littering smokers.

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DJ13

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:25 PM
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2. Wouldnt matter, the nannies would still ban it

For a supposedly "liberal" area the communities in and around SF are some of the most draconian about controlling behavior they disapprove of.

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CreekDog

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:27 PM
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5. it's a public health measure mister

second hand smoke is not a matter of freedom.

and nevermind that butts are litter.

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Chemisse

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:31 PM
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6. It's a little tough to sniff up much second hand smoke

Out of doors with a stiff ocean breeze. I think these people need to be a little more tolerant of those beleaguered with the smoking addiction, and enforce their litter laws instead.

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DJ13

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:31 PM
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7. Bullcrap

Indoors, yes.

Outdoors you're making excuses for not being real liberals that let people live their life without someone looking over their shoulder.

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The Straight Story

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:33 PM
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8. Can we ban Bakersfield CA? That place has air so bad you might as well smoke

But people just don't care about the air when it is their car harming others.

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CreekDog

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:35 PM
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9. their air is in violation of the law

governing air quality.

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The Straight Story

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:37 PM
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10. That city just existing is a violation of laws

Edited on Thu Sep-03-09 06:37 PM by The Straight Story

:rofl:

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The Straight Story

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:25 PM
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4. They should pass a litter law

Oh wait....

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Taverner

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Thu Sep-03-09 06:25 PM
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3. Aw man this is going to piss off my dad....

hehehehehehehehe :evilgrin:

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