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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:37 PM Original message |
Of rationing health care, death camps, Kaiser Permenente, and my 80+ year old mother . . . |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. What about Medicare? nt |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Kaiser and Trickie put us in this boat over 30 yrs ago! |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. This is what cut them loose, thanksTrick Dick |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Yep they did! Rotten bastards! |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. Our benevolent private insurance overlords would NEVER do something like that...n/t |
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Suich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm not 80 yet, but |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. She said she had to fight to get it covered because of her age... |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. In the case of an HMO` |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 10:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. ! |
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Suich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I'm on Medicare and I don't know what that means, |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Kaiser makes the decisions, no appeal to MC |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Kaiser needs to GO. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. Wow, KP has changed since I was a member. My biggest problem was |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. She needs to get away from Kaiser... |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. I am on Medicare have HEALTHNET hmo |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. I know nothing about Kaiser but isn't she on Medicare? |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. She has said they won't cover it... |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. There is certainly nothing about age in the book I have. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I will pass this on to her...thanks. n/t |
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excess_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. there will always be a claims adjuster |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. That doesn't sound right; I'm KP with Medicare and there's no age exclusion in my coverage |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I think her doctor and KP are acting like asses |
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Suich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Good luck, Triana! |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I hope it does - however Kaiser has treated her like sh*t since she got on it |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
19. Why is your Mom, at 80, not using Medicare first and insurance to plug gaps? |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. That's supposed to be what she has (I think) but |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Having been there (caring for an aged parenet) more than once ...... |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
22. If your mom wants these tests she should get them |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Well they aren't fun tests.. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
26. I think your mom is confused -- we have Kaiser Senior Advantage too - please read |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. So what's happening is the primary care Dr. is simply NOT ordering tests |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. If the tests are listed on a sheet |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I live on the other side of the country from her so.. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Medicare has it's quirks too. |
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WeCanWorkItOut (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
35. Kaiser does ration care. It would be good to see comparisons |
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WeCanWorkItOut (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
36. I forgot (it was so obvious): Kaiser also rations access to specialists |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
37. Sounds like your mom is on a "Medicare Advantage" program (Medicare Part C), not traditional MedC. |
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Epiphany4z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. she can also write Kiaser and complain |
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