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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:11 AM
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Anyone of 'Medicare-age' who is at ANY forum rallying AGAINST single-payer
need to be told STRAIGHT-TO-THEIR-FACE, "why are you here? You've GOT/ARE ENJOYING single-payer healthcare RIGHT NOW! It's called Medicare. And direct them to 'go home' and stop being hypocrites.

The same goes for people who get military healthcare or are on Medicaid.

And the same goes to the grown 'children' of Medicare recipients who would NOT choose to or NOT BE ABLE to pay the bills for their elderly parents, if it weren't for Medicare!



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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:15 AM
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1. Same goes for Veterans.
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skorpo Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:47 AM
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6. Remember that all Veterans DO NOT get VA Health Coverage
For years the VA tried to decrease the number of Veterans that get VA Health Care. Things have improved some but many are gun shy having applied and been told they will only get coverage for "Service Related" problems. Recently there have been some changes BUT it will take a long time for our veterans to get appropriate coverage.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:18 AM
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2. They
need to have their finger bitten off :sarcasm: Seriously though, these hypocritical old bastards need to be given the business whenever the opportune moment arises. They don't get no free passes. Either shut up or give up your Medicare.
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:24 AM
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3. They know what they have...
They just don't want others to get any of it.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:35 AM
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4. I'm truly beginning to believe that, "NO", they don't know what they have"
They were told, "they were the greatest generation".....and they BELIEVED it! Many suffered through the depression, but then of course lived through the most prosperous years (post WWII) that the world has ever known!

However, MANY of today's "medicare-age" folks are more "Korean War" and NOT WWII. They didn't experience the depression, per se, only the frugality remnants from their parents who DID experience the depression. Medicare-aged people today were the 'greasers', et al of the 1950's. Their early lives were lived in a very prosperous time.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:41 AM
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5. AARP has long been one of the most feared
and coddled lobbying groups in Washington. And for decades, if you've watched public meetings and hearings, you'll notice they've been thick with blue-hairs. It's still true. Seniors are a mighty electoral bloc. And more than most, they get what they want.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:51 AM
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7. Well, then take their Medicare away,......they're against single payer, aren't they?
Single-payer is EXACTLY what Medicare IS!!!!!

(I really don't advocate AT ALL for Medicare to be taken away. In fact, quite the opposite. It should be extended to ALL). I'm sick, sick, sick-n-tired of people (old and young) working against their own FAMILYS best interests!!!!

We must work to cure "Teh Stupid".....work for the "cure" :-)
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SergeStorms Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 05:11 AM
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13. There was a recent poll........
I saw somewhere, that over half of the people in this country didn't know Medicare was a government run program. :wow: I guess they thought it was a privately run, for profit, insurance program.

And these are the same people who scream that they don't want government involved with their health care, see? :banghead: That would be socialism, and we can't have that. :sarcasm: No siree.....as soon as government gets involved with health care the death panels start killing babies and grandma gets turned into Soylent Green.

A majority of people in this country are stuck on stupid. Americans are the most ill-informed, ego maniacal people on the planet, yet they fancy themselves great thinkers and far superior to others in intellect. :eyes: Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:52 AM
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15. When I read this line of your post, I started to get concerned, since
it is the same majority that decides elections.

"A majority of people in this country are stuck on stupid. Americans are the most ill-informed, ego maniacal people on the planet, yet they fancy themselves great thinkers and far superior to others in intellect. Nothing could be further from the truth."

We are screwn. Yup. Yup. Let's us go reelect some incumbents.
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shifting_sands Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:02 AM
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8. I am
for single payer and I have medicare and everyone I know on medicare is for single payer, I think before you start slamming those receiving medicare you should get your poll numbers straight as well as what the media is putting out there. Just like the rest of the population, only a small number of seniors are against single payer, we know what a great deal medicare is, that's why we've paid into it all our lives.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:11 AM
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9. To be fair, the OP qualified the criticism.
"Anyone of 'Medicare-age' who is at ANY forum rallying AGAINST single-payer" was the header.

That's not a criticism of Medicare recipients, it specifically singles out those of "Medicare age" who are "at ANY forum rallying AGAINST single-payer".


I think that's fair.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:11 AM
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10. I'm not slamming people on Medicare....not at all!
I'm slamming people on Medicare who go to town hall meetings, get their mug on the teevee, etc. and RAIL AGAINST single-payer and/or healthcare reform in this country....when THEY ARE GETTING/BENEFITING FROM A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM ~ Medicare!

THOSE people are hypocrites. Lower than "low" and stupider than 'a box of rocks'....no insult meant to rocks!
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shifting_sands Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:14 AM
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11. my point
is they are not by any stretch of the imagination the majority. Some of those folks I've seen don't even realize that's what they are on and that it's socialized and runs pretty darn good.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:21 AM
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12. Well, I hope you straighten-out those you run across who mis-understand
....I hope you will use every opportunity/person you run across and tell/teach them STRAIGHT-TO-THEIR-FACE that Medicare *IS* single-payer healthcare. I know I will do so. Is that agreeable to you as well?
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:30 AM
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17. Sort of like some members of Congress, aren't they?n/t
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 07:31 AM by dgibby
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 05:13 AM
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14. I think the unfounded threats of cuts to medicare are what scares them. nt
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:06 AM
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16. What's mind boggling is grandma is, essentially, saying the lives
of her children and grandchildren are not worth as much as her own if she can have medical care when she needs it and they can't.
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