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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:42 AM
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FYI: Here's the petition that Van Jones signed:
We Want Real Answers About 9/11

On August 31, 2004, Zogby International, the official North American political polling agency for Reuters, released a poll that found nearly half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of those in New York state believe US leaders had foreknowledge of impending 9/11 attacks and "consciously failed" to act. Of the New York City residents, 66% called for a new probe of unanswered questions by Congress or the New York Attorney General.

In connection with this news, we have assembled 100 notable Americans and 40 family members of those who died to sign this 9/11 Statement, which calls for immediate public attention to unanswered questions that suggest that people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war.

We want truthful answers to questions such as:

1. Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?

2. Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Pentagon not activated during the attack?

3. Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to complete his elementary school visit, apparently unconcerned about his safety or that of the schoolchildren?

4. Why hasn't a single person been fired, penalized, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?

5. Why haven't authorities in the U.S. and abroad published the results of multiple investigations into trading that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the 9/11 attacks, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of traceable gains?

6. Why has Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Ashcroft and granted by a Bush-appointed judge?

7. How could Flight 77, which reportedly hit the Pentagon, have flown back towards Washington D.C. for 40 minutes without being detected by the FAA's radar or the even superior radar possessed by the US military?

8. How were the FBI and CIA able to release the names and photos of the alleged hijackers within hours, as well as to visit houses, restaurants, and flight schools they were known to frequent?

9. What happened to the over 20 documented warnings given our government by 14 foreign intelligence agencies or heads of state?

10. Why did the Bush administration cover up the fact that the head of the Pakistani intelligence agency was in Washington the week of 9/11 and reportedly had $100,000 wired to Mohamed Atta, considered the ringleader of the hijackers?

11. Why did the 911 Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?

12. Why was Philip Zelikow chosen to be the Executive Director of the ostensibly independent 911 Commission although he had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice?

Those who are demanding deeper inquiry now number in the hundreds of thousands, including a former member of the first Bush administration, a retired Air Force colonel, a European parliamentarian, families of the victims, highly respected authors, investigative journalists, peace and justice leaders, former Pentagon staff, and the National Green Party.

As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:

1. An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer

2. Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.

3. Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.

4. The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry.

Given the importance of the coming election, we feel it is imperative that these questions be addressed publicly, honestly, and rigorously so that Americans may exercise their democratic rights with full awareness.

In closing, we pray and hope for the strength to approach this subject with wisdom and compassion so that we may heal from the wounds inflicted on that terrible day.

Signed,

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:46 AM
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1. not a thing wrong with it, either. unless you're mccarthyites, like FOX.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:52 AM
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3. I just searched Google News and the only hit I get when I search for....
a line in that petition is the 911truth.org statement to the press.

So we're given Glenn Beck's characterization of the petition, but the actual petition is verboten.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:51 AM
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2. So WTF wrong with that? Friggen Beck Bachmann and Bolton...assholes
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:54 AM
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4. Which is why the MSM won't include it in its coverage.
It will soon be deleted from GD too...
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:57 AM
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5. Well, he seems to have been a "911 Truther" on that day.
Does that disqualify him from a position in the Obama Administration? Debatable. And he/we lost.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:33 AM
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7. A truther is someone who wants truthful answers? Include the majority of people across the globe.
The "official story" is BULLSHIT - and THINKING people know it. Hell, Bush lied from Day 1.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:35 AM
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8. I would say a Truther is one who signs a petition on the Truther website.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:15 AM
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12. He's not a Troofer. None of the stuff about empty robot planes is in there. n/t
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:41 PM
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29. Yep, just asking for more investigation into a real crime.
There's not enough tinfoil in that petition to bake a potato.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:26 PM
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30. Fuck, I think even *I* signed that petition. n/t
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:27 AM
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15. He called Republicans assholes in a way easily taken to mean all Republicans. on tape.
And now that attention is on him, all the other stuff is surfacing. It's that simple- if you want a career in politics you need to start planning in the cradle. And like my momma always said, "Your mouth is going to be your ruination."
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:32 AM
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23. So? n/t
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:53 AM
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25. How does asking why 20 warnings from 14 countries weren't followed up make you a 'truther'
If you aren't even allowed to ask why our intelligence agencies are incompetent w/o being labeled a conspiracy theorist, then what are you allowed to ask?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:26 AM
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6. We were raised to use common sense from the first day we were taught how
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 07:30 AM by peacetalksforall
to look both ways and now we are told to suppress common sense - for the benefit of politicians working for corporations to rule all of us.

From Beck to Bachman to Harris to L. Franklin to O'Reilly to Ludeen to Palin - they have batallions of people successfully fighting for the corporations to win. And the death of grown fetuses doesn't faze them.

The corporations rule. You just have to have the foresight to get lemmings on your side who have some extremely weak principles.

Too bad for the corporations that they have clowns and jesters doing the job for them before the people, but that doesn't seem to be much of a problem because there is an enormous number of believers in illogic, nonsense, and viporous hate who wildly believe their clowns and jesters.

"Is our corporations winning?" or have they already won?


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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:39 AM
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9. the marginalization of truth - the mindfucking of a generation - is enforced from a dishonest center
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:46 AM
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10. There's nothing wrong with this. Is this what they are using as the basis for their
claim that he suggested the government had a hand in 9/11? That's really a stretch.

So 49.3% of NYC residents hold views that make them unfit for public service according to those who are upset about this petition all because they have questions. How ridiculous.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:01 AM
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11. We're only hearing now
about the evidence that has accumulated over the years that the Pan Am 103 bomber was framed with fraudulent evidence and bribed witnesses to be set up as the patsy to take the fall for the Pan Am bombing. (And the topic is still largely ignored in the mainstream US media.) See this thread at DU for more information and links on the judicial farce that was the Megrahi trial:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6469345

It would be naive to think they have given us the real story on 9/11, especially after when one of the co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission says it was "set up to fail". But mushrooms really only need dark and to be fed bullshit, so why should anyone feel a need to sign such a petition?
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:28 AM
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16. It doesn't matter. He also says he was a communist, Marxist, whatever...
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:20 AM
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13. I signed it too! n/t
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:23 AM
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14. It's not just the petition. nt
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:45 AM
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17. I'd sign it. And I'm not a Truther.
I'm a New Yorker.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 09:25 AM
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18. What galls me is that we're not allowed to see the petition...
A man is hounded from public office because he signed a petition...

AND NO MSM OUTLET PUBLISHES THE PETITION
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:23 AM
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20. Here it is:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:25 AM
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22. That's where I found it. But show me a link to AP, Reuters, NYT, ABC, NBC, etc.
None I can find.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:56 AM
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26. Of course they won't
Serious questions about 9/11 or Sibel Edmonds would come up if they did that. Our media sucks.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:09 AM
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19. And letting him resign means that not knowing these answers is acceptable?
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 10:11 AM by Gregorian
I find this highly disturbing. On face value, I feel that this is how these things slowly progress under the rug. Just a little kick here and there. In other words, I deduce that the powerful people of this country do not want us to know what really happened on that day.

Obama should have not only refused his resignation, but used this opportunity to begin asking the big question about 9/11. Maybe that would shut the town screamers up. They'd have something else to think about.

I'm afraid I have made a lot of conclusions from this that may not be true.
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:24 AM
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21. I'm done with Obama.
Seriously.... he's caving into the right wing on EVERYTHING. This is going to be Clinton 2.0.

We'll never have a Democratic President that can be STRONG and leave the party more progressive. No we'll only have Wall Street and CIA-approved puppets who govern as weaklings who jump everytime the right wing (FOX NEWS) say Boo!

Having called for an investigation into 9/11 is cause for being fired? Insane.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:21 AM
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24. How can we be done? He got 3.3 years left.....whad we gonna do?
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:51 PM
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28. All I mean is that I'm done defending him. n/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:56 AM
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27. Looks like a lot of the same questions the Jersey Girls asked.
See my sig line.
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