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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 06:53 PM
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Hartmann today on Van Jones firing. Follow the green....to big oil!
It sounded very logical to me. His reasoning - sure Jones had a few things that were scoped out and picked on - signing a 911 investigation petition (that Hartmann, many of the 911 families, etc signed), big into promoting educational opportunities amongst blacks - but the biggie is his leadership on green jobs. Hartmann's view is that stopping at Beck is not the way to view this - it is Beck's corporate masters, and eventually, money from Big Oil that brought him down. The deep reaches of lobbying money. He went through this during the opening 20 minutes of his show today.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 06:55 PM
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1. It's Beck
He's what got the ball rolling. As soon as that Color of Change petition was started, Van Jones' days were numbered.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 06:58 PM
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2. Hartmann claimed it didn't start with Beck - was some organization that put Beck up to it -
Americans for Progress or something like that (I wonder if Hartmann posts a transcript? Need to go to his website)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 06:59 PM
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3. That makes sense
but Beck had the perfect motivation when that petition was started.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:37 PM
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5. I'm on the list for his newsletter. . .
Here's a partially applicable quotation excerpted from today's sending.

"Thom's Blog
Sarah Palin is calling the AP's decision to release a battlefield photo of a dying Marine over the family's objection "an evil thing to do." Santiago Lyon, the director of photography for AP, said, "AP journalists document world events every day. Afghanistan is no exception. We feel it is our journalistic duty to show the reality of the war there, however unpleasant and brutal that sometimes is." I get it that the family did not want to see this photo published - and it breaks your heart to see this photo - Americans, our politicians and the President must see the true cost and the reality of war. You can't deny what war is about when you see a photo like this. War is hell. Was this death a heroic act? A senseless sacrifice? Or both?

With the Obama Administration allowing Green Jobs czar Van Jones to resign, questions about the Democrats being spineless are becoming more and more the truth. Why didn't they just let Glenn Beck and the others keep yelling their heads off about Jones' purported radical ideas? Why didn't they just dismiss the hollering and say - there's a new group in town. BTW - who's next on Glen Beck's list? I heard it's Cass Sunstein. . ."

You too can receive it gratis if you go to his site or try this link . . .

https://www.thomhartmann.com/members/pricing.php

He won't spam ya I swear.


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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:35 PM
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9. Who's pulling the strings?
Right wing talkers are all puppets. Who is writing their lines, pulling thier strings? I'm not buying that this was big oil but I do know that the PR companies that work for Big Oil have very strong ties with these right-wing mouth pieces.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:37 PM
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4. Kicked and Rec'd
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:41 PM
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6. Interesting, thanks for posting that
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:09 PM
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7. More about the man and group who are bragging
about taking Van down...


Did Big Oil Swiftboat Van Jones?

A group of global-warming deniers funded and run by a big oil interests is taking credit for the resignation of President Obama's green jobs advisor Van Jones. In a column on the Fox News website, Phil Kerpen of Americans for Prosperity, a group that claims that climate change is a hoax, called the downfall of Jones "one of the most significant things I've ever had the honor of being involved in." Americans for Prosperity is reportedly funded by the ultra-conservative oil baron Charles G. Koch, who also is the chairman of the organization. The group's primary mission is to derail Obama's climate-change initiative, also known as "cap-and-trade."

As Kerpen tells it, he prompted Fox News host Glenn Beck to go after Jones after he discovered the East Bay Express' 2005 profile of the Oakland activist/environmentalist. Beck has yet to deny the accuracy of the column written by Kerpen,
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/blogs/did_big_oil_swiftboat_van_jones_/Content?oid=1189943


A link to Kerpen's column... http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/06/phil-kerpen-van-jones-resign/

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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:16 PM
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8. thanks for posting - reminding me of the punchline. Anti Cap and Trade vendetta.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:31 PM
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10. That makes sense to me....
I still don't see why he quit...hell, remember Senator Vitter from LA who liked prostitutes to put him in diapers so he could shit himself and cum at the same time????

I would remind the Repugnant party of that every damn day....!!!! And when Vitter returned to the Senate, he got a fucking STANDING OVATION.

That's what Van Jones should have said. No I don't think I'll resign unless Vitter does. WTF is wrong with these men??????? Are they paid to resign????? Does Big Oil give them tons of money or what???

I just don't see how these dudes can be so spineless....my cat has more of a spine.

I'm just soooooooooooooooooooo sick of it.
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