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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:38 AM
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"I'm a victim of 9/11. I was in the building when the plane hit."
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 08:54 AM by kpete
I'm a victim of 9/11. I was in the building when the plane hit.

Compared to some people, I was lucky: I wasn't injured. I kept my job. I got home easily. But compared to the vast majority of Americans, I am a victim. I had glass in my hair. I lost a year's work, and some irreplaceable items. My family went crazy for a while. My kid had nightmares. You explain to a 5 year old why (in his words) "They crashed into the building on purpose?" or reply to "I thought pilots were good people".

But I am a victim another way.

I share part of this other victimhood with all Americans. I am a victim, not of terror, but of the so-called `war on terror'. I am a victim of a government that was out-of-control, and is still not fully in control. I am a victim of crushing national debt. I am a victim because I live in a country that went from having the sympathy of the world to one that is a pariah, an outcast among nations, a rogue state; and that has not yet recovered. I am a victim because I now have to `watch what I say'. I am a victim because my rights are violated, not by some nebulous and inimical group of terrorists, but by my own government.

They do not speak for me.

more:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/11/780386/-A-9-11-victim-speaks



.................

please show respect today, no dungeon talk, kp

...................

How Fragile We Are
By: Christy Hardin Smith Friday September 11, 2009 6:00 am

So many lives lost.

So many dreams shattered.

So many families with empty arms.

So many loved ones with aching hearts.

Still.

How fragile we all are. How much stronger we all are together.

In memoriam. Requiescant in pace.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:45 AM
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1. We are all victims
As 9/11 was an inside job.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:59 AM
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3. nope. not a victim of 9/11.
and no I don't believe it was an inside job.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:00 AM
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5. Well, it obviously brought out the crazy in a lot of people...
Incompetence? Yes.

Dereliction of duty? Yes.

Poor execution or poor plans? Absolutely.


An "inside job"? That's both paranoid and unrealistic...and there's very little evidence to support it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:42 AM
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:06 PM
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24. What makes you say that there was little evidence?
Bushco, Inc. had the means, the motive, and the opportunity. On 9/10 Bush's approval was sinking into the dismal category. On 9/12 it was up around 95%. He ignored his PDB in August. After transponders were lost and planes went off course, jets were NOT scrambled.

Look at the pictures of the Pentagon shortly after the incident. There are wire spools, standing edgewise after a blast to the front of the building. How could they still be standing after a major shock wave hit? Not to mention the hole in the building. Where are the engines?

As far as the WTC is concerned, why is it that a building that has been on fire for much longer than that building has never fallen. If the structure was that weak, the wind could have brought it down. And what of the molten metal down at the bottom of the pile?

And the plane in PA. There's a trench there, and no debris from a plane. It looks like someone dumped little bits of metal there. Where are the bodies? Where did the plane go? Again, where are the engines?

I can bring up tons of proof, but many people cannot handle the truth that Bushco, Inc. and PNAC was more concerned in their money than people.

Call it paranoid and unrealistic, but I call it fantasy, and unwillingness to question authority if one accepts the official fairy tale.
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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:13 PM
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29. It's paranoid and unrealistic. And just plain nuts.
...
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 06:21 PM
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33. what makes you say that?
Is it because I don't believe the "official" report? Please give some facts to back up your claim. Thanks.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:00 AM
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6. Dupe
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 09:00 AM by MercutioATC
.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:32 AM
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14. Your irrational troofer religion is poisoning you
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 06:22 PM
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34. Last time I looked, I lost my religion.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:37 PM
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38. Your mocking BS is, well, BS.
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 08:38 PM by HCE SuiGeneris
Attitudes that belittle people without having access to all the facts just paint you as a fool and mean spirited.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:08 AM
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19. So much for "no dungeon talk"...
First post in. Sheesh.

Sid
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:57 AM
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2. I'm a victim of overwrought essays claiming victimhood
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 09:00 AM by Richardo
I'm sorry, but equating 'glass in my hair' with a 90-story fall, or being burned alive, or crushed to death, or helplessly watching as the plane you're in corkscrews into the ground is offensive to me.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:59 AM
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4. well said.
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:07 AM
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10. Overwrought is right
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:16 AM
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12. You need to open up your heart and read it again
You missed the point of the OP.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:34 AM
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15. "I'm a victim of the Bush Administration" is just a banal observation
"Woe is me - we had a bad President."

Yes, well the sky is blue too - I don't have to read that in the DailyKos.

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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:44 AM
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22. Metaphors are a common literary device.
Metaphors are a common literary device. I imagine one doesn't have to read that in DailyKos either...

However, I imagine one man's metaphor is another man's banal observation.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:06 PM
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27. Actually the OP claims to be a victim of 9/11
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Pangolin2 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:14 PM
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30. No, the OP copied and pasted from a blog
someone else's story.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:37 PM
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31. It's still not about Bush, but about 9/11
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:17 AM
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13. Wow, you are pretty cold...have a heart will you?
...........being in a building that was struck by one of the planes, escaping a burning building, being a witness to the events, breathing the air....This person didn't suffer enough for you?
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:38 AM
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16. +1. The OP could have gone into gory details about seeing body parts on the street
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 09:41 AM by Maru Kitteh
burned victims screaming along side them and bodies hitting the pavement, but they didn't.

I took me a long time to get over the shock of it all and sleep well again and I live in the middle of the country I really can't imagine the impact of having to run away from all of that, on that day.

PTSD is a very real wound too.

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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 04:09 PM
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28. The Great One wouldn't have thought so either.
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:06 PM
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37. Perhaps you're right, but I wouldn't so readily dismiss what is likely a very real PTSD
description. How does that make someone unqualified as a "victim" as if that's some formal honor reserved only for those who are visibly disfigured or dead? Believe me, the unseen injuries that hundreds and thousands of people (including family members of those who WERE disfigured or died in the attack) are just as valid as those you can see.

There are many of us who have not fought in Iraq, who were not near the WT towers 8 years ago, but have suffered traumatic events individually (car crashes, etc.), and even if fortunate enough to have endured such crises without any visible injuries (which actually tends to invalidate us), the injuries are VERY real and very difficult to work through and heal. Especially when they're invisible and therefore dismissed by others, who just decide that we should feel nothing but "fine" since we weren't hurt.

I don't think you're being fair equating the poster's very REAL pain, injury (whether you can see it or not) with that of what you imagine people went through before they died (you only reference death experiences - which I find odd - it's not like you have any first hand knowledge from those who have been burned alive or crushed to death).

Perspectives like yours are not only so intensely harmful and dismissive, but the stigma imposed along with such a perspective is more destructive than you clearly are able to comprehend.

I don't think it's reasonable to be so harsh. A little empathy goes a long way... and we never use it nearly enough.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:00 AM
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7. We are victims of what the bu$h regime did to and with 9/11
They used 9/11 to ram through any legislation and war they desired. Took civil liberties from the people and force fed us their version of "patriotism"

I still cringe to this day when someone mentions patriotism. And each 9/11, I dread the re-running of the bumbling bu$h arm around the fireman yelling in the megaphone and everything else associated with the event.

It should be a day we remember what happened with solitude and not grit our teeth thinking about what a few evil men did to our nation because of the event.


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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:54 AM
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23. My sentiments exactly!
Look, before 9/11 Bush's approval ratings were in the sewer. 9/11 happens, and his ratings skyrocket to something unheard of. (I was in the 5% minority even then.)
That's why I say that they knew it was happening, and either made it happen, let it happen, or orchestrated the whole thing. I tend to think it was orchestrated, otherwise there would have been a scramble shortly after transponders were lost from planes, and they went off course.
That's why I will say, that until proven otherwise, 9/11 was an inside job.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:03 PM
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25. It doesn't have to be complicated.
When people say "orchestrated", that makes it sound like the neocons were flying the planes themselves. I know they could, but the simplest explanation is from Mike Ruppert. In his book Crossing the Rubicon, he accuses Cheney of deliberately scheduling NORAD training exercises for the week of September 11, which left the eastern seaboard vulnerable. The previous summer, he had been in close contact with the CIA, who had intercepted conversations detailing the plan. That's all he needed to do, besides dissuading congress from investigating 9/11.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:03 PM
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26. (Duplicate post)
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 02:04 PM by Qutzupalotl
.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:01 AM
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8. K&R....We suffered with you....and prayed for you....
And Bush gave all of us 8 years of hell...all for WMD's which were never found...well I guess I could say the Republicans found them in their heads.....And today our military is still fighting a war that should never have happened..
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:05 AM
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9. "The War on Terror", just the phrase alone makes my skin crawl.
Not only have all Americans become victims, millions of people in Asia who never hurt us and never intended to harm us have become victims as well. All the while, it's justified by the term "collateral damage" in the hope that we won't realize that it's just a euphemism for innocent lives including an untold number of children and women. It's no wonder that my sister who lives in Germany is still looked at with a certain amount of suspicion and fear since the people in the village know that she's an American. It's not that "I must hate America" as the RW likes to spew at us when we question our government's actions. I just hate that so many innocent people have had their lives taken or destroyed by our government's actions both here and abroad in quest of the holy grail of :The War on Terror".
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:13 AM
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11. When I read stories from that day, I remember the comments of
the first responders who said that this looked like a demolition. Then, before the firemen could remove their wounded from the wrechage a fight broke out. Police had been brought in to stop the recovery. Can you imagine? These people eat and share living quarters together, they are like a family, and they were turned away from searching for their own. It was heartrenching.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:02 AM
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18. We all are victims. We are just too blind to see it..
Thank you for opening up to us.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:10 AM
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20. Keep healing well admired DUer.
Now I understand the fervor I am glad to keep seeing.

I hope the family heals as well. We all need to.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:35 AM
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21. Yes we are all still trying to heal.
I nearly lost my nephew.

So much mystery clouds the event, and we are victims as long as true justice is not served.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:56 PM
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32. That is exactly right. We're all victims without truth and justice.
That is precisely what we haven't had. 60% of the 9/11 Commissioners now say they were lied to and were prevented from doing a thorough job. Whatever one may think, we do not know the truth behind 9/11. Yet, *radical* changes in domestic and foreign policy are based on the premise that we do know. 9/11 was a sad day for America in more ways than the obvious.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:41 PM
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35. ... n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:51 PM
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36. K&R.
I lived thru that day as well.....did not go back into Manhattan for over a year.
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