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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:42 AM Original message |
Baucus & Conrad cave again, toughen health care bill's anti-immigrant provisions to appease Joe W. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think it's good they define that, it'll be a bloody thorn until they do |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. "Proof of citizenship?" What the hell is that? |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Opened a can of worms. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. With your birth certificate. ("vault copy" only) |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Birth certificate, naturalization papers |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. But my birth certificate says, "Territory of Hawaii" |
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Seeking Serenity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Birth certificate. Passport. (n/t) |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. You don't look Hispanic or speak with an accent, do you? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Do you have a passport? That is serious proof of your citizenship. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. My mom's Medigap insurance is provided by the state |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. I am SO FUCKING TIRED of Democrats prostrating themselves before these cretins |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. I have come to believe there is no |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. No one (who matters) is proposing illegals be turned away from emergency rooms. |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I became a little heavy-handed on this I see. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Evidence please. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Sure, go ahead. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. if they are already here, that's already going to happen |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. We have had mass repatriation of illegal aliens in the past. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. well then, keep praying for that 8 year Great Depression |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I hear they have a new iPod coming out, isn't that kewl? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. goofball |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Emergency rooms don't provide treatments for chronic conditions |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Emergency rooms aren't supposed to provide regular care for foreigners. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. When an American company advertises in another country |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. So how many will you let in? |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. You completely ignore the American companies that are responsible |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:35 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. How many immigrants will you let in? It's a simple question. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. As many as Swift , Hormel and other companies will hire |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. You are misreading the question. I'm asking how many immigrants will you admit to the US. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Not having all the information required to make that kind of decision |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. Rewarding bad behavior and another sign of no moral compass. |
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GardeningGal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. So, someone with a green card wouldn't get covered? nt |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Legal Immigrants can buy into the PO under HR 3200. |
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GardeningGal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. How is that (or is it) impacted by the changes in the OP? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
8. piss on immigrants. Its the christian thing to do. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. "ignorance" it's rampant all-over. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. The US has millions of legal immigrants. Adds something like a million per year. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. one group is human, the other is not, is that it? |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. One group has permission to be here, the other does not. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. The first rules concerning immigration were created |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. So are you saying that the 14million illegals should be naturalized and welcomed ... |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. in a word, |
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Boku-Wa (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. And you believe that you're 'compassionate'? You add nothing to this discussion with |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I claimed to be compassionate? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. no, we would never accuse you of having compassion. Trust us. |
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Boku-Wa (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Guess not. Sorry, I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. and there, in a shell of nut, is our problem. Democrats ARE compassionate |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. nevermind |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
14. LOL - birth certificates, I presume? No loyalty oath? n/t |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
21. If we "can't afford" to cover all Americans, how can we "afford" to cover illegal immigrants? |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
22. You holler at the President, and they do what you want. |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
25. Is is REALLY so important for a nation of immigrants |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
27. Blessed are the sick -- as long as they have proper documentation |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. but the GOP would cease to exist, if they actually followed those teachings. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Kind of my point... |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. would be nice, eh? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. If we had a true progressive Democratic party, it would already be over |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. oops dupes |
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deminks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
45. Here it comes, wait for it,...ID cards for voting, health care, you name it |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
59. They're not "caving". They're vigorously fighting to promote their |
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