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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:33 PM
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“It Simply Defies All Logic and Morality”: The 20-Year Travail of Troy Davis
“If recantation testimony (which convicted a person of murder), either alone or supported by other evidence, shows convincingly that prior trial testimony was false, it simply defies all logic and morality to hold that it must be disregarded categorically…” – Minority opinion of the Georgia Supreme Court, arguing that it is “unwise and unnecessary” for the state to execute an innocent man.


In the early hours of August 19, 1989, a fight broke out near a Burger King restaurant in Savannah, Georgia, between a homeless man, Larry Young, and another man, who struck Mr. Young with his pistol. A 27-year old police officer, Mark Allen MacPhail, attempted to break up the fight, but was shot dead by the man with the gun, who then fled the scene.

About two years later, Troy Davis was convicted of the murder of Mark MacPhail and sentenced to death. The evidence against him consisted of seven eye-witnesses to the murder and two witnesses who claimed that Davis later confessed the murder to them. There was no other evidence, as the murder weapon was never found.

However, of the nine witnesses, seven subsequently recanted their testimony in written affidavits. One of the two who has not recanted his story has subsequently been identified as the murderer by new evidence.

Consequently, efforts were undertaken by human rights organizations to obtain a new trial for Troy Davis, who since his conviction has undergone a truly byzantine journey through our court system, with repeated sentencing, appeals, and last minute stays of execution – the last major event being an August 26, 2009 U.S. Supreme Court decision that a federal district court in Georgia "should receive testimony and make findings of fact as to whether evidence that could not have been obtained at the time of trial clearly establishes (Davis's) innocence.”

This case is so disturbing on so many levels that it’s enough to make one lose all faith in our system of justice if one hasn’t already done so. Not so many years ago I used to be in favor of the death penalty. Since then I have learned a great deal and changed my mind for a number of reasons. Probably the most important of those reasons was a growing awareness of how seriously flawed our system of justice is. The case of Troy Davis emphasizes those flaws about as well as any other – although examples abound. Let’s consider a few things:


Recanted testimony

I noted above that 7 of the 9 witnesses who constituted the whole case against Troy Davis have recanted their testimony. One would think that that fact alone would be enough to grant Troy Davis a new trial. But it’s a lot worse than it sounds on the surface, once you take a look at the specifics of the recanted testimony. It’s more than a little bit reminiscent of how the Bush administration made the case for war against Iraq:

Darrell Collins
The police put me in a small room and some detectives came in and started yelling at me, telling me that I knew that Troy Davis…killed that officer by the Burger King. I told them that… I didn’t see Troy do nothing. They got real mad when I said this and started getting in my face. They were telling me that I was an accessory to murder and that I would pay like Troy was gonna pay if I didn’t tell them what they wanted to hear. They told me that I would go to jail for a long time and I would be lucky if I ever got out… I was only sixteen and was so scared of going to jail…

I told them that it was Red and not Troy who was messing with that man, but they didn’t want to hear that… After a couple of hours of the detectives yelling at me and threatening me, I finally broke down and told them what they wanted to hear. They would tell me things that they said had happened and I would repeat whatever they said.

I testified against Troy at his trial. I remember that I told the jury that Troy hit the man that Red was arguing with. That is not true. I never saw Troy do anything to the man. I said this at the trial because I was still scared that the police would throw me in jail for being an accessory to murder if I told the truth about what happened.

Larry Young
Mr. Young was the homeless man whom Davis allegedly pistol whipped before shooting MacPhail. Here are excerpts from his affidavit:

Some police officers grabbed me and threw me down on the hood of the police car and handcuffed me. They treated me like a criminal, like I was the one who killed the officer… They just locked me in the back of the police car for the next hour or so. I kept yelling that I needed to be treated but they didn’t pay me no mind.

They then took me to the police station and interrogated me for three hours. I kept asking them to treat my head, but they wouldn’t. They kept asking me what had happened… and I kept telling them that I didn’t know. Everything happened so fast down there. I couldn’t honestly remember what anyone looked like… The cops didn’t want to hear that and kept pressing me to give them answers. They made it clear that we weren’t leaving until I told them what they wanted to hear.

They suggested answers and I would give them what they wanted. They put typed papers in my face and told me to sign them. I did sign them without reading them.

Antoine Williams
Antoine Williams was an employee of Burger King on the day of the shooting.

Later that night, some cops asked me what had happened… I kept telling them that I didn’t know. It was dark, my windows were tinted, and I was scared. It all happened so fast….

After the officers talked to me, they gave me a statement and told me to sign it. I signed it. I did not read it because I cannot read.

At Troy Davis’ trial, I identified him as the person who shot the officer. Even when I said that, I was totally unsure whether he was the person who shot the officer. I felt pressured to point at him because he was the one who was sitting in the courtroom. I have no idea what the person who shot the officer looks like.

Dorothy Ferrell
I was scared that if I didn’t do what the police wanted me to do, then they would try to lock me up again… From the way the officer was talking, he gave me the impression that I should say that Troy Davis was the one who shot the officer… I felt like I was just following the rest of the witnesses. I also felt like I had to cooperate with the officer because of my being on parole…I told the detective that Troy Davis was the shooter, even though the truth was that I didn’t see who shot the officer…. I had four children at that time, and I was taking care of them myself. I couldn’t go back to jail. I felt like I didn’t have any choice but to get up there and testify to what I said in my earlier statements. So that’s what I did.

Jeffrey Sapp
The police came and talked to me and put a lot of pressure on me to say, ‘Troy said this’ or ‘Troy said that’. They wanted me to tell them that Troy confessed to me about killing that officer. The thing is, Troy never told me anything about it. I got tired of them harassing me, and they made it clear that the only way they would leave me alone is if I told them what they wanted to hear. I told them that Troy told me he did it, but it wasn’t true. Troy never said that or anything like it.

When it came time for Troy’s trial, the police made it clear to me that I needed to stick to my original statement… I didn’t want to have any more problems with the cops, so I testified against Troy”.

Kevin McQueen
The truth is that Troy never confessed to me or talked to me about the shooting of the police officer. I made up the confession from information I had heard on T.V. and from other inmates… Troy did not tell me any of this… I have now realized what I did to Troy so I have decided to tell the truth… I need to set the record straight.

There are others, but I think that’s enough. With that kind of evidence before them, it’s difficult for me to see how judges with any conscience could deny Troy Davis another trial.


Some of the legal issues from the Troy Davis case

I’m not a lawyer, and much of the legal issues involved in this long, drawn out case are very difficult to understand. I’ll just note some of the points that sound especially egregious to me.

On 26 September 2006, the 11th Circuit upheld a decision against Davis’s request for a federal hearing, finding that “we cannot say that the district court erred in concluding that Davis has not borne his burden to establish a viable claim that his trial was constitutionally unfair”. In other words, they were concerned only about evidence of unconstitutionality of the process used in Davis’s conviction – not about the current presence of evidence with the potential to exonerate him.

In a March 17, 2008 decision by the Georgia Supreme Court, ruling on a motion for a new trial, the court dismissed the importance of the recanted testimony, in their ruling against the motion for a new trial. The majority opinion in this 4-3 decision noted:

the general lack of credibility that should be assigned to recantation testimony in the context of an extraordinary motion for new trial… Trial testimony is closer in time to the crimes, when memories are more trustworthy.

Well, that’s one of the stupidest (or most heartless) things I’ve ever heard. The trial testimony was “closer in time to the crimes”?!! What’s the difference how “close in time” it was to the crimes, when several witnesses testified to police harassment? And why on earth would anyone come forward to admit making a terrible and huge mistake if it wasn’t true? I would say that all of these recanting witnesses demonstrated a good deal of courage to do what they did – notwithstanding the fact that they initially succumbed to the ‘enhanced interrogations’ that the police directed at them. The three judges in the minority on this decision pretty much agree with me on this:

I believe that this case illustrates that this Court’s approach in extraordinary motions for new trials based on new evidence is overly rigid and fails to allow an adequate inquiry into the fundamental question, which is whether or not an innocent person might have been convicted or even, as in this case, might be put to death… It is unwise and unnecessary to make a categorical rule that recantations may never be considered in support of an extraordinary motion for new trial… If recantation testimony, either alone or supported by other evidence, shows convincingly that prior trial testimony was false, it simply defies all logic and morality to hold that it must be disregarded categorically…

In this case, nearly every witness who identified Davis as the shooter at trial has now disclaimed his or her ability to do so reliably. Three persons have stated that Sylvester Coles confessed to being the shooter. Two witnesses have stated that Sylvester Coles, contrary to his trial testimony, possessed a handgun immediately after the murder. Another witness has provided a description of the crimes that might indicate that Sylvester Coles was the shooter.


Wrongful convictions

Perhaps the best argument against the death penalty is the growing awareness of the number of wrongful convictions which were later overturned based on new evidence. Indeed, since 1973, when the death penalty was reinstituted in the United States, more than 130 people have been released from death row on the basis of new evidence showing that they were wrongly convicted.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg. A large number of those overturned convictions involved DNA evidence and were therefore the consequence of new technology. But only a small fraction of capital cases have the potential of being overturned by DNA evidence – Troy Davis being a case in point. Like many others, his conviction was based on eye-witness testimony – in his case coerced eye-witness testimony. DNA evidence could not possibly exonerate him. And as long as courts take the ridiculous view that recanted testimony is not worthy of consideration, there will continue to be many unwarranted executions. But even if recanted testimony was taken more seriously, there would still be numerous executions of innocent people, since it is rare that a great deal of effort is put forth to look for former witnesses who may have been coerced into false testimony, as in the Troy Davis case.

A report of a study titled: A Broken System: Error Rates in Capital Cases, 1973-1995, sheds a lot of light on the problem. It found that appeals courts discovered serious errors requiring a judicial remedy in 68% of cases. The most common were:

(1) egregiously incompetent defense lawyers who didn’t even look for – and demonstrably missed – important evidence that the defendant was innocent or did not deserve to die; and (2) police or prosecutors who did discover that kind of evidence but suppressed it, again keeping it from the jury.

Justice David Souter, joined by three other Supreme Court Justices, stated the gist of the problem in a 2006 minority opinion, noting:

evidence of the hazards of capital prosecution, (including) repeated exonerations of convicts under death sentences, in numbers never imagined before the development of DNA tests… Most of these wrongful convictions and sentences resulted from eyewitness misidentification, false confession, and (most frequently) perjury, and the total shows that among all prosecutions homicide cases suffer an unusually high incidence of false conviction… probably owing to… intense pressure to get convictions…


Racial prejudice

It is well known that racial prejudice plays a prominent role in the injustices perpetrated in our judicial system – especially in the south. A January 2003 study by the University of Maryland concluded that:

race and geography are major factors in death penalty decisions. Specifically, prosecutors are more likely to seek a death sentence when the race of the victim is white and are less likely to seek a death sentence when the victim is African-American.

Particularly glaring is the finding that the likelihood of a death sentence is 11 times higher in cases in which blacks killed whites than for cases where whites killed blacks

Racial prejudice among large segments of our population is not likely to disappear any time in the near future. The only way to maintain a semblance of justice (at least with respect to capital punishment) in the face of it is to abolish the death penalty.


The recent U.S. Supreme Court decision

The recent U.S. Supreme Court decision that requires a federal district court in Georgia to review the evidence in the Davis case provides him with a glimmer of hope. Not surprisingly, Justices Scalia and Thomas dissented, Scalia saying that even if the district court were to find Davis to be innocent, there would still be nothing unlawful about executing him. Wow!!! It is not at all surprising to hear that asshole say that, but still, it is rather chilling.

But even though that chilling opinion by Scalia was a minority opinion, it is still too early to tell how the U.S. Supreme Court stands on this issue. Michael Dorf discusses the issues in an article titled “Did the Supreme Court Recognize an Innocent Person’s Right Not to Be Executed”, and he concludes that their recent 6-2 ruling:

may portend recognition of the right of death-sentenced prisoners to present new evidence of innocence, but it may not. Whether the hearing the Court has ordered proves to be a "fool's errand," as Justice Scalia characterizes it, could depend on what the full Court (Sotomayor did not participate in the decision) says about the matter if and when the case returns to its docket.


Some saner and more human opinions

The idea that a nation that has a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting “cruel and unusual punishment” would not recognize an innocent person’s right not to be executed seems to me to be absurd and heartless in the extreme. So I’ll quote some judicial opinions supporting my point of view on that:

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote in a minority opinion in1993:

Nothing could be more contrary to contemporary standards of decency, or more shocking to the conscience, than to execute a person who is actually innocent… Just as an execution without adequate safeguards is unacceptable, so too is an execution when the condemned prisoner can prove that he is innocent. The execution of a person who can show that he is innocent comes perilously close to simple murder.

Judge Rosemary Barkett characterized Troy Davis as being caught up in a “thicket of procedural brambles”, and that to execute him in the face of evidence that could establish his innocence would be “unconscionable”. She said:

What must not be lost sight of is whether Troy Davis may be lawfully executed when no court has ever conducted a hearing to assess the reliability of the score of affidavits that, if reliable, would entitle Davis to federal habeas corpus relief.

And the European Parliament recently proclaimed about the case:

Whereas, according to Troy Davis' lawyers, there is abundant proof of his innocence, material evidence against him has never been produced and seven witnesses for the prosecution have retracted their testimony… Whereas since 1975 more than 120 people have been released from death row in the United States, having been found innocent…

Calls upon those countries where the death penalty is imposed to take the necessary steps towards its abolition… Asks that Troy Davis' death sentence be commuted and, in view of the abundant evidence which might lead to such commutation, for the relevant courts to grant him a retrial… Calls on … to raise the issue as a matter of urgency with the US authorities… Instructs its President to forward this resolution to the… Government of the United States, the Georgia State Board of Pardons and Paroles, and the Attorney General of Georgia.

For more information on this case, and ideas on what you can do to help, see Amnesty International’s web page for Troy Davis, Amnesty’s Troy Davis teach-in resource kit, and their report, “Unconscionable and unconstitutional: Troy Davis facing fourth execution date in two years”, which ends:

A death row inmate in the USA faces huge obstacles to proving his or her innocence, not least if there is no DNA evidence to test and when the courts treat witness recantations with skepticism…. Circuit Judge Rosemary Barkett is surely right. To execute Troy Davis under these circumstances would be unconscionable.



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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:41 PM
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1. wow
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:13 AM
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2. Thanks for posting information on Troy's case.
I'm always appreciative to learn. And I had never read the witness statements regarding recantation, until now.

Justice in America is criminal. How could prosecutors get cops to bully people into submission. Shame on them.

I just want the truth.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:26 AM
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3. Thank you -- The more I read on this subject the worse it gets
I'm not sure that it was simply that the prosecutors got the cops to do this. It could have been just as much or more their idea than the prosecutors' idea. They certainly did approach this with gusto.
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 07:32 AM
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4. The only way this is going to end
is if prosecutors (and police) face serious jail time for knowingly promoting false convictions.

Truth equals justice, and nothing else will do.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:00 AM
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7. I agree with you TicketyBoo, and Wellcome to DU.
Judges, attorneys and law enforcement officers should be impeached, disbarred, fired and prosecuted; and add too that list the bought and paid for venial politicians. Another term for these individuals is social practitioners; and they should be held to the highest of ethical standards and penalties for corruption should be severe; but they are not because society has yet to realize that authoritative power positions such as politics, the courts and law enforcement are highly coveted by the social predators known as psychopaths.

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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:47 AM
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5. K&R for an innocent man
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:02 AM
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6. It’s meant too defy all Logic and Morality: and it is no accident!
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 09:14 AM by Larry Ogg
And had I not read and studied books like “Ponerology” and “The Authoritarians” I would be lost for words to describe what is now in my mind; the crystal clear picture of Pathocracy and the understanding as too why people succumb to the antics of predators who have gained positions of authority, that they can pressure people of conscience through fear - engendered by authority - to bear false witness against the innocent, so as some predators remain free to terrorize the herd, while others remain free too define and control the political and legal systems; this is how we know - why we need them. But still, if all I had was a conscience and was concerned about the injustice, I might sense that there was something amiss with these systems of government, although I would never be able to put my finger on it because that’s the way evil works; when individuals who have no conscience become the arbitrators of truth and justice, such things become a matter of paralogical, paramoral and para-acceptable opinion; first by those who have taken over the roles of leadership, and then by those who must make a cruel decision… When the law has lost its moral compass; do I lower my moral standards and obey, or do I loose respect for the law and the predators that control it so as they alone can defy it as they see fit, and to use it to cover their own incompetent and lawless tracks?

K&R
Larry


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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:30 AM
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10. When the law has lost its moral compass....
do we lower our moral standards and obey?

That's one of the most important questions of all time. In Nazi Germany, that's exactly what most people did.

Fortunately we still have some options. Because of our First Amendment we can voice our disrespect for the law while still avoiding being thrown into prison. But our society may be approaching the time where that is no longer possible. While it still IS possible, we should make the best use of it -- and try to figure out a way to break the power of the psychopaths who have so much influence in our country today.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:04 AM
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8. What is it with Authority and Torture?
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 10:06 AM by Torn_Scorned_Ignored
Twenty years ago was before the United States commonly used Torture on prisoners yet it is apparent by this case and so many others that Law Enforcement has free rein to at least psychologically torture for purposes of confession and implication.
I would think they would want the actual murderers and criminals instead of someone decided with threats and coercion.

I'm sure there are thousands of people innocent incarcerated for lessor crimes than murder by witnesses being beaten psychologically.

If Mr. Davis is innocent he deserves Justice. I'm wondering though if his innocence and freedom will actually feel like justice, considering the twenty years he has lost to a corrupt system. Twenty years of life missing family, seasons, conversation, holidays, and all the joys of just being able to participate in being alive.

There are so many things wrong with capital punishment and so many great arguments for abolishing it, but still I'm not convinced it wouldn't be just, in some limited cases, to Hang em High.

Thanks for the piece Time for change.

K&R.



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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:27 PM
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24. Of course, what these police officers did to the witnesses
(assuming that all of these witnesses aren't making it up) is not at all legal. In fact, those involved in this severe obstruction of justice should be prosecuted and (if the witnesses' descriptions are reasonably accurate) sent to prison for a very long time.

In fact, that is probably the main reason why Troy Davis remains on death row today. There are probably a lot of powerful people who really don't want to see police officers and prosecutors who may have been involved in this tragic miscarriage of justice prosecuted for their evil deeds. If Troy Davis receives a new trial, a lot of very serious shit will be stirred up, and that will make a lot of people very unhappy.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:03 PM
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27. don't I know that...
stirred shit makes some very unhappy.
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:28 AM
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9. KandR. Heartfelt thanks for this post.
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 10:30 AM by Dystopian
Time for change, the story that is Troy Davis is tragic. Some DUers have been working on keeping his story in the public eye....I've joined in, signed petitions, yet that is all I've been able to do....

I can assure you that your personal need for justice and your love of humanity will be read by Troy.
That is all I can say.
Thank you for being you...
peace & love to you~
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:42 PM
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13. Yes indeed it is tragic -- and sad
It feels good to think that he might read this. Do you mean to say that he will?

Peace and love to you also, Dystopian. :hug:
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:08 PM
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14. Yes...
I have a feeling that he will indeed read this.
Thank you so very much...:hug:

peace~
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:48 AM
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11. Problem is, the family of Mark MacPhail STILL wants their pound of flesh
no matter what.

www.markallenmacphail.com

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:53 PM
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26. That's wierd
Under the heading "The REAL TRUTH, not Troy Davis's allegations", the only thing discussed is MacPhail's life, and what a good guy he is. The implication is that the movement to give Davis a new trial somehow involves disparaging Mark MacPhail. But I've never seen any literature in support of Davis say anything bad about or denigrate MacPhail in any way.

And then there's a sound bite above that, which reads "Troy Anthony Davis is guilty. Ballistics matched!" What ballistics? The murder weapon was never found, and certainly there was no murder weapon was tied to Davis. The only evidence against him was witness testimony, the great majority of which has now been retracted.

How petty! I can understand that his family misses him, etc. But why that should lead them to not give a damn about whether or not the man who is executed is guilty or innocent is hard for me to understand.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:39 PM
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12. I simply cannot fathom a Supreme Court justice saying that . . .
"even if the district court were to find Davis to be innocent, there would still be nothing unlawful about executing him" . . . what kind of jurist is this character? . . . moreover, what kind of person is he? . . . what if it were someone he loved that was about to be executed despite evidence of his or her innocence? . . . would he feel the same way? . . .

I've heard for years that Scalia is one of the most intelligent justices on the court, with a legal mind like a steel trap . . . if these are the kinds of minds passing judgement at the highest level of our judicial system, the future of our country is hanging by a precariously flimsy thread . . .

"nothing unlawful about executing him" . . . it just boggles the mind . . .
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 03:21 PM
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16. Scalia is a psychopath,
who should be removed from the bench on account of mental illness.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:04 PM
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28. Scalia is the architect of the stolen 2000 election
The lead scumbag on what most legal experts consider one of the three worst USSC decisions in US history (alongside the Dred Scott decision, which stipulated that slaves are private property, and made it illegal to assist slaves in their attempts to escape). He ruled that the counting of votes must stop immediately because otherwise irreparable harm would be done to George W. Bush. So instead of risking harm to Bush he did irreparable harm to the entire country -- and world.

He may be intelligent, I don't know. But there is no consistency to his decisions. I will echo what iceman said. He is a hypocrite and a psychopath. And he should spend the rest of his life in prison. No doubt about it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=461511
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 03:17 PM
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15. Kick for Justice
We need to see this on the greatest page. Thank you!

Rally For Troy Davis - National Conference of Black Lawyers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ceplbEOdY&feature=PlayList&p=348696421C4E28FD&index=1

peace~
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:12 PM
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17. K&R!!!!!! AMAZING OP, Time for change!!! your DEVOTION!!!!
words can not express....

:cry:

:yourock:

Gratitude


to be continued later. i was blown away to find this post - thanks to PM, THANK YOU!!

rushing now, more later....


peace and solidarity!!

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 07:53 PM
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25. Thank you nofurylike
Of course, if anyone wants to use all or any part of this OP to advance the cause, they are more than welcome.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:27 AM
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30. thank YOU, Time for change!! and again for that generosity! your
Op is outstanding, and full of info that can, yes, and will, yes, be made use of.

there are teach-ins about Troy and his case next week. i will be making use of your excellent compilation! with gratitude!!


peace and solidarity!!
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:14 PM
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18. PLEASE kick this, folks!! all NEED to know this info!!! pass the
word on, EVERYWHERE!!!


LTTEs, all who can!!!


peace and solidarity!!
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:15 PM
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19. kick to the top, for all to read!! eom
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:02 PM
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20. kick. i hope people will read this, and pass it on! eom
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:05 PM
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21. K & R
:kick:
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:17 PM
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22. Kick.
I am Troy.

www.IamTroy.com

peace~
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:20 PM
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23. Innocence Matters

peace~
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:01 AM
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29. This is horrible

Thanks for putting this all together.

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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:37 AM
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31. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:41 AM
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32. kick so all can get to read that important information. eom
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 06:19 PM
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33. Support Troy!
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