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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:56 AM
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IOKIYAR....Mark Foley gets his own radio show.
More proof that if you are a Republican you can do what you want, and you will be redeemed. I mean, look at Karl Rove...given credibility by our own Democrats. Look at New Gingrich, working to get his education dreams through.

It really is okay to have scandals if you are a Republican.

Mark Foley’s second act

Former U.S. Rep. Mark Foley (R, Fla) -- who resigned in 2006 after it emerged he’d sent sexually explicit e-mails and text messages to underage male House pages -- is starting a new job: radio host. Foley’s politics-themed talk show will be heard on the AM dial starting Sept. 22, in his former Palm Beach congressional district. (South Florida Sun-Sentinel)

What the commentators said
Foley’s host station, WSVU AM, is exhibiting "a certain tone deafness" here, said Mark Howard in News Corpse. The show’s title, "Inside the Mind of Mark Foley," is tasteless and off-putting, but then again, so is the idea of giving voice to a "sexual predator."

I don’t get the outrage here, said Jason Zengerle in The New Republic. It’s not like Foley’s new "glorified deejay job" is going to make him a public official again. And besides, it’s not so uncommon for sex-scandal-tarred politicians to get media jobs -- "see Eliot Spitzer’s recent turn as a Slate columnist." Foley was never convicted, and he was punished by losing his House seat, so let him earn a living in peace.


Typical TNR response.

Crooks and Liars has something to say about this.

Say What? Disgraced Republican Mark Foley Gets His Own Talk Radio Show

Yes. Really. Disgraced Republican, and former Florida Rep. Mark Foley has his own radio talk show! I thought this was a parody at first, but according to ABC, it's true and the name of his show will floor you -- "Inside The Mind of Mark Foley"

..."Yikes! I'm not sure many people really want to know what's going on "inside the mind of Mark Foley." Once you get past the fantasies of sipping chocolatinis with young boys in their underwear, it's a good bet that all that's left in Foley's mind that could possibly be worked into a radio show are the same old, worn out right wing talking points. Because we need another right wing talk show


Our Democrats used his fall from grace as a political measure, not reporting it when they knew it. My DD has something to say about the way it was handled in 2006

Does Rahm's Foley Lie Matter?

From Matt Stoller at MyDD

So surprise surprise, it turns out that Rahm Emanuel was lying about whether he knew anything about the Foley emails or IMs when he went on ABC's This Week at the height of the scandal. Sorry to move to come late to the party in terms of commenting on what I think might turn out to be a somewhat significant story. I don't like what Rahm did here. I don't think he had to do it, and I think he was wrong to do it. I'm not naive, of course. In politics you have to accept a certain level of cynicism in terms of the political operatives that run campaigns and the party. Dirty campaigning is an art, and it's more often than not the case that your side has to deal with people that are unseemly or lack integrity.

I just can't though let Congressman Emanuel's behavior pass without comment, so I'm going to quote Glenn Greenwald.

"It's possible that the Democratic takeover of Congress can result in genuine and meaningful -- and desperately-needed -- change for our country. But it's also possible that it could result in nothing notable, that it will produce only the most marginal and politically risk-free actions, all justified by the need not to do anything too "extreme" due to a fear of harming their 2008 electoral prospects.

Which course Democrats take will be determined by whether they are guided by political figures committed to genuine change due to a conviction that such change is needed (even if that means incurring some political risks), or whether they are driven by cynical, exclusively political and dishonest Beltway operatives like Rahm Emanuel."


Here are more details on the topic of how the Foley seat was handled.

Details from the swamp we call Florida politics

A very good Democrat, Dave Lutrin, was pushed out of the race by his own party using questionable methods...so Rahm and Karen Thurman could run a Republican millionaire for the position.

Early on in the process– in mid-2005– Dave contacted Democratic Party organizations throughout the district, as well as the state party and the DCCC in Washington. Everyone was enthusiastic and encouraging. Glen Rushing, the DCCC point person for the region, told Dave he was "just the type of candidate we're looking for." He offered to introduce him to Alabama Congressman Artur Davis, the DCCC-appointed mentor for Democratic candidates in the region, who following their first phone conversation offered to help him with his race. Rushing then promised to get him in touch with Florida DCCC chief, Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Emanuel's lieutenant for the Southeast.

..."Then something happened, something very dark and secretive, something people are just uncovering now. DCCC Chairman Rahm Emanuel found out something that could– and did– change the dynamics of the race in FL-16 dramatically. Emanuel became aware that Mark Foley– well-known for years Inside-The-Beltway, albeit not among his church-going constituents, as a very active (and very hypocritical) homosexual– was molesting the underage male congressional pages, and that he had been for many years. Did Emanuel call the police? Did he even call the staffers who are charged by Congress with looking out for the welfare of the pages? Doesn't look that way.


And Foley, like Rove, like Gingrich is back in the public eye as though nothing ever happened.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:01 AM
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1. What's it going to be called
the Pedo Talk Hour? Why isn't this guy confined to a life of insignificance, with a little blue square over his house on a certain website regarding certain pervo people like a certain former congressman who apparently now has his OWN RADIO SHOW?!!! :wtf:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:24 AM
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2. There are no consequences for Republicans with scandals.
He should not be on the radio at all.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:37 PM
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28. Yeah, what DOES Foley have to say now anyway?
What's he gonna do, plagarize the Rush Limbaugh show? Besides, he avoided getting arrested by resigning from Congress while the investigation was still taking place, just like Richard Nixon avoided impeachment by resigning. Foley's now a real estate agent, by the way.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:14 AM
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3. I did not realize he was chair of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/mark-foley-talk-radio-host-email-scandal/story?id=8519821

Now that's outrageous.

"When the page scandal broke, Foley was the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. He resigned hours after ABC News questioned him about the instant messages with former congressional pages, some of whom were under the age of 18 at the time of the exchanges. Officials in Florida announced a year ago that Foley would not face criminal charges because of "insufficient evidence."
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:05 PM
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17. Republicans embrace irony. nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:30 AM
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26. They must...
embrace irony that is.

Just the thought of it.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:17 AM
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4. If we like to fancy ourselves a country with any kind
of basic moral values, we're deluding ourselves.

We've bottomed out in the morality department.

Standards? We have none, except cash goes a long way to contributing to the appearance of standards.

But this radio show?

And the idea that he got away with what he pulled with those pages is nothing but shameful.

Now, why did Rahm Emanuel lie about Foley? I never heard that. Why did he do that?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:32 AM
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7. There was not even a real investigation about the pages...
Didn't Pelosi pull back from one? I think so.

It was pretty well known that the seat was used politically back then, but it was not talked much about here.

Dave Lutrin posted once in a thread of mine that he appreciated the post. He said he might run again. But I surely would not blame him if he did not.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:05 PM
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29. They all lied. Foley had been harassing young
male pages for over ten years and many of them knew about it. What is so sad, and I remember writing about this on another board at the time, was how he hurt some of those boys.

Glenn Greenwald answers your question about Rahm Emanuel's lie re Foley.

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/12/did-rahm-emanuel-lie-about-his.html

Did Rahm Emanuel lie about his knowledge of Mark Foley? Yes.

At the height of the Mark Foley scandal in October -- when Democrats were pounding Denny Hastert and company on a daily basis for having taken no action despite knowing about the emails sent by Foley to at least one page (and for lying about their past knowledge) -- Democratic Congressman (and DCCC Chair) Rahm Emanuel went on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos (along with GOP Rep. Adam Putnam).

> snip

Stephanopoulos explicitly asked Emanuel: "I just want to ask you plainly -- did you or your staff know anything about these emails or instant messages before they came out?"

Emanuel interrupted the question with an emphatic "no." Then, once Stephanopoulos was done with the question, this is what Emanuel replied: "George, never saw 'em . . . .

> snip ..."if a high school teacher was found doing this with a child, and the principal knew . . . the community and parents would have that principal and teacher out." Rahm Emanuel


> snip..... If you listen to the video, there is little doubt that Emanuel was lying in every meaningful sense of that word. He not only denied having "seen" the e-mails, but also interrupted Stephanapolous's first question about whether he was "aware" of the e-mails with an emphatic "no," and at least on one other occasion, denied not only having seen the e-mails, but also having been aware of them. Those denials were just outright false (i.e., "lies").


There's a lot more ... Matt Miller, the staffer for the DCCC, was so disturbed when he saw the emails in the Fall of 2005, that he sent them to the media. I also remember a poster who called himself 'Hill Staffer' I believe making a few comments on another board which were mostly ignored as people thought he was using nasty tactics to bring down Foley. Later, I felt bad as I wondered if he was one of the pages trying to get help. Which they did eventually get after posting on a smaller blog.

They all knew for at least a year and at least one of the pages was trying to get someone to listen to him. But Rahm Emanuel knew also, and did nothing about it. Despicable behavior from all of them, and disgusting to think this creep is going to have radio show.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:51 AM
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5. "Inside the Mind of Mark Foley"?
There's gotta be a lott of echo in there.

The theme song of the show should be "Boys."
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:52 AM
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6. more proof this country may be fucked beyond repair
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:25 PM
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8. Just when I think people might catch on...
to some of the rightwingers' shenanigans, I realize that the popularity of Beck and Limbaugh and others like them just about says it all. So many in our area love Beck and think he is intelligent and inspiring that it fills me with despair.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:27 PM
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9. I know Sirius has a gay-oriented channel
Is Mark going to be on a new "Gay Pedophile Channel"?

:shrug:
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:57 PM
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10. Shouldn't he be living under a bridge
with the other sex offenders in Florida?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:04 PM
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12. I just saw that video of the bridge in Miami...Ybor City Stogie has a picture and video.
They are ordered to live there and put the bridge as their home address.

What's Under The Julia Tuttle Causeway

In Miami, many condos might not be worth a million dollars anymore, but the views still are. Zip across the causeways that connect the mainland to Miami Beach and it's as if you're leaving your troubles behind.

That is, unless you happen to be cruising along the Julia Tuttle Causeway and you slow down enough to look at the side of the road, where a tent community has formed along the water's edge.....


There is more from ABC Nightline

"When I got to the probation officer, he also told me I had to live under the Julia Tuttle Causeway. He also told me that I had to go to the drivers license place to put it on my driver's license," Barkley said, offering as proof his state ID with the bridge listed as his official residence.

"As if this is a residence. This is not my home address," he said. "My home is in Liberty City But I can't live there based on the ordinance."

Under the bridge, you hear a lot of talk about "the ordinance."

That's a reference to the residency restrictions Miami Dade County implemented in 2005, barring registered sex offenders from living within 2,500 feet of schools. On top of that, state law creates a 1,000-foot buffer around schools, parks and playgrounds, and for offenders on parole, school bus stops.


It really appalling.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:08 PM
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14. It's insanity.
The lunatics have truly taken over the asylum.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:02 PM
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11. Whip out your rulers you youngsters - it's time for the Mark Foley show!
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:07 PM
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13. Let's be fair - the vast right-wing conspiracy would not want Foley to have a radio show
Too embarrassing. This is more a sign of how totally insane our society has become. Eliot Spitzer could probably get a talk show, too.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:28 PM
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15. I don't know if Wall Street would allow Spitzer to have a talk show
Unless it were only about prostitution.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 07:27 PM
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16. Spitzer was on to Wall Street.
But I would never compare him with Foley.

They were just looking for something to bring him down.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:08 PM
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18. I agree
How is the world of education?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:14 PM
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19. Wow - we all know Foley is scum, and republicans
have resurrected themselves all over - I wonder how Tom Delay's dancing skills are these days? But where is the outrage in letting Foley get away with what he did for so long? How many teenage boys have been hurt by his actions?
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:57 PM
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20.  What a trend...washed-up celebrities AND Republicans getting media time?
First, we have all these trash VH1 reality shows where washed-up past stars are trying to get back in the spotlight, most prominently Flavor of Love, starring Public Enemy hypeman Flavor Flav (he was so much better when he did "911 is a Joke", and Rock of Love, starring Bret Michaels of the glam-metal band Poison. Of course, so many brain-dead members of the public were watching those shows that VH1 decided to let the contestants of those shows get their own darn shows! There are countless other such shows on both broadcast and cable stations that I won't bother to name so that I stay on topic here.

And just look at how many stale conservative pundits are getting free airtime these days. It started in 1994 with convicted Watergate burglar G. Gordon Liddy's radio show (which is still on, by the way). Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has been out of work for 10 years yet still regularly appears on the "liberal media" (you know, ABC, CBS, and NBC) morning shows and Sunday talk shows. Gingrinch (err, heh heh) is gonna appear on Sunday's Meet the Press (alongside Howard Dean for balance at least).

Given Foley's history of being a pervert with Congressional pages, I wonder if he says something indecent on the radio we can file a bunch of complaints with the FCC and throw him off the air, if conservatives drove off Howard Stern through FCC complaints throughout the '90s and early 2000s. ;-)

As the right-wing mafia of Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, and G. Gordon Liddy continue to pollute the airwaves, Foley just poured gasoline in the fire.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:13 PM
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21. On the other hand, what about liberals/Democrats who got post-political media careers?
- Rod Blagojevich (fmr Gov, IL): After being impeached from office, he tried but failed to be a contestant on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here!, so his wife filled in for Rod, who stayed in Chicago to write his autobiography.
- Eliot Spitzer (fmr Gov, NY): writes column for New York Daily News
- Jerry Springer (fmr mayor of Cincinnati, OH and fmr US Senate candidate for Ohio): Host of talk show that was initially a more serious one from 1991 to 1993 and degenerated to its current violent, bleeped, sexually bizarre format afterwards. Springer also hosted a political radio show on Air America from 2005 to 2006.

And in the opposite of my examples above, Sen. Al Franken (DFL-MN) was an Air America host and comedian before becoming a senator.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:19 PM
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22. LOL Welcome to DU
I don't know what to say about what you said. :wow:
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:44 PM
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24. I hope Sen. Franken does a good job of representing his constituents.
I, for one, don't care that he used to work in comedy, but conservabots liked to bring this up during the recount as if it were some sort of black mark.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:25 PM
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23. You mentioned G. Gordon Liddy, former Watergate criminal. Funny, I was just...
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 09:26 PM by Independent_Liberal
...going to bring him up. It was so funny, him recently going on record as saying he's seen no signs at any protests calling Obama a Nazi or comparing him with Hitler. Typical Liddy. :eyes:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:10 PM
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25. sure he'll get lots of text messages from listeners
telling him what they are wearing etc.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:39 AM
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27. Charles Manson would have a show on Fox if not for bars - and still, who knows...

they just still might figure out a way. they managed to make space for Beck
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