On this day after 9/11...

How many American soldiers have died in Iraq and Afghanistan? Is there a long list that could be posted here, describing, name, date and service of the individuals who have died in Bush's illegal wars?

http://www.icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx


The non-hostile vs hostile gets to me....dead is dead.

And I wonder about the non-hostile entries that give no description of what kind of non-hostile..was it from suicide, disease, etc..?? There are some that give a description like "drowning", "car accident". There is one that says "non-hostile-land mine"!! Um, pretty sure planting a land mine for someone to step on/ride over involves some hostile intentions.

Coalition Military Fatalities By Year (IRAQ)

Year US UK Other Total
2003 486 53 41 580
2004 849 22 35 906
2005 846 23 28 897
2006 822 29 21 872
2007 904 47 10 961
2008 314 4 4 322
2009 122 1 0 123
Total 4343 179 139 4661

Coalition Military Fatalities By Year (Afghanistan)

Year US UK Other Total
2001 12 0 0 12
2002 49 3 17 69
2003 48 0 9 57
2004 52 1 6 59
2005 99 1 31 131
2006 98 39 54 191
2007 117 42 73 232
2008 155 51 88 294
2009 195 76 63 334
Total 825 213 341 1379

As a mom of an 18 yr old college freshman and a 22 year old college grad who is flying off tomorrow to start a new job I CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE losing either one of them.

In list form. From the beginning to today. I want to see how long that list is when posted here.

http://www.icasualties.org/Iraq/Fatalities.aspx

234 pages.... at 20 per page ... from the first..

Date Name Rank Age Country Cause Place Branch Province State City
3-21-2003 Childers, Therrel Shane 2nd Lieutenant 30 US Hostile - hostile fire Southern Iraq U.S. Marine NA Mississippi Harrison Co.


to the most recent...

Date Name Rank Age Country Cause Place Branch Province State City
9-08-2009 Myers, Zachary T. Private 1st Class 21 US Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Bayji U.S. Army Salah Ad Din Ohio Delaware



Cheers
P

I'll give you a rec just for being honest.

War is insane. I can't think of another word to describe it better. It's insane to think that war is anything but a crime. If you want to go after the terrorists, then by all means do so. In spite of Cheney's pronouncements litigation has caught more terrorists than his torture has. Go after terrorists themselves, not the innocent civilians who happen to live where terrorists may, maybe, be hiding.

War is for profit. Think about that. When was the last time a war the US created a just war? And by a just war I mean when was the last time this country was in danger from some terrible action another country has taken or some imminent invasion by a country?