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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:12 PM
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Lobbyist frantically try to water down HEALTH CARE BILL even further.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/12/health/policy/12lobby.html?_r=2&hp
Groups Back Health Reform, but Seek Cover
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK


...Each industry group is also working quietly to scuttle or reshape some element of the administration’s proposals that might hurt profits — usually some measure aimed at cost control.

The drug industry, for example, struck a deal with the Obama administration and is now waging a major advertising campaign to help push the health care overhaul. But the drug makers also abhor one of its cost-cutting components: a government initiative to study the effectiveness of treatments that the companies fear could mean lower payments for certain drugs...

...The American Medical Association, a pivotal player because of its credibility with patients and voters, has made the most sweeping endorsements of the administration’s efforts, restating its support in a letter released Wednesday before President Obama urged Congress to pass a bill this year.

But the A.M.A.’s lobbyists are also working to extinguish the idea of a government-run insurer, which doctors fear could eventually push down their fees. The lobbyists are also using the organization’s support as leverage to persuade Democrats to roll back steep cuts in future Medicare payments to doctors (the House bills eliminate the cuts, and the A.M.A. is still at work on the Senate)...



Read the whole article. It is worth the read.

This is why I worry about the final bill. All we may end up getting is a mandate for comsumers (who have no lobbyists) with no significant cost cutting on the parts of drug companies, doctors, hospitals and insurance companies.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:15 PM
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1. Also see Firedoglake for blog on this article
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:21 PM
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2. Also
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:02 PM
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3. k&r for the likely truth (that being that we are getting shafted). n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:58 PM
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4. Thanks
:kick:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 09:52 AM
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11. My pleasure. Happy to kick it again. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:13 AM
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12. Thanks II (the sequel)
:D
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 08:11 PM
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13. One more kick. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:19 PM
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5. All of them stink with HC Lobby money -
There will be no reform until money is taken out of politics - greed and power supersedes the will of the people.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:50 PM
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8. Not ALL of them.
HR 676 (Medicare for ALL) has 85 co-sponsors in The House,
though I wouldn't know that if I depended on The Democratic Party "leadership"
or the Media to tell the Truth.
85 co-sponsors is significant support.

Those are REAL Democrats who are still working for you.


”Unlike other candidates, I am not funded by those corporate interests.
I owe them no loyalty, and they have no influence over me or my policies.”
---Dennis Kucinich


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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:54 PM
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9. Point taken and thanks -
I have become so disgusted lately with the amount of money being thrown about - while 85 is a strong number, when it comes right down to it, it won't change things when it comes time to get a bill out, and the Senate is even more dismal. Dennis is one of the good guys, the media however, gives him little or no traction on issues that he cares most about.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:54 AM
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10. Totally agree.
Disgusted too.
On bad days, I suspect that even the Progressive Caucus is a part of The Big Scam.
Just a part of the Kabuki Theater to keep up the illusion that The People still have a chance.

"If we only get 70 seats in The Senate...THEN you would see some change!"
Send in your donations TODAY!
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In my heart, I KNOW that Health Care Reform was decided long before Obama put his hand on the Bible.
It WILL BE a multi Billion Dollar gift to the financiers of the Democratic Party in the Health Insurance Industry. That part is indisputable.
All we are doing now is arguing over the crumbs.

After 2004, I stopped all donations to the DNC, DCCC, DSCC, and now only send donations DIRECTLY to Progressive candidates, but I've about had it with the whole scam.


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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:30 PM
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6. Well, they do provide a service...
...and products that help extend our lives.

All they ask in return is for all your money, Godlike worship and blind servitude.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:46 PM
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7. Not too much to ask.
:)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 08:59 PM
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14. +1
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